I had so much to say, but forgot it all while reading the thread.
I have just purchased my 5660 and it hasn't arrived yet. But already I am thinking about the future.
I live in New Zealand, I payed around NZ$3800 inc my countries sales tax. If I sold this in NZ right now I could easily get $5000 because most NZers don't know about Sagers and computers with desktop parts, they'd pay 5 grand because a computer in NZ with the same specs from compaq, dell or sony vaio would easily be 6-8 grand.
This could be a strategy for me in upgrading. Although I can see that there are many other issues, such as warrantee etc.
In my opinion, a mobo upgrade is quite a significant thing. The mobo used atm has an outdated i845 chipset, currently using 266 DDR right. The pentium 4 utilised has a data bandwidth of 533Mghz which is 4.2 GB/s. The memory bandwidth of 2.1 GB/s is not utilising the pentium 4 as it should. Memory bandwidth is the best way to upgrade your computer, and cheapest. DDR266 is becoming quite old, and whilst it works well with Athlon XPs with the lower FSB clocks, the Pentium 4 only really nudges its potential when the FSB bandwidth is utilised, in which it is with RAMBUS 1066 at 533MHz. Just go to www.tomshardware.com
and look at the cpu battles. The point i'm trying to get to is there is ddr memory out there with bandwidths of 3.7GB/s and yet the best intel ddr chipset can only run 2.1 . I think Clevo should adress this, and I think they probably already are, as 266 memory is well below the price performance sweetspot, with 333Memory only being a couple of US$ more nowadays for 25% more bandwidth. I was reading some article before about the ECS desknote systems (desktop replacements like the Sagers), they used P4's northwoods with 400FSBs, and they found that,
P4 1.8Ghz 400FSB with DDR333
outpermed a P4 2.4GHz with DDR266 in nearly everything. So the memory quality does matter (yes I will search my logs and find the article).
Onto the video aspect of things. New video card. Video cards and Hard drives are the only thing that hold desktop replacement notebooks from achieving the same performance as the leading desktops. Hard drive perfomance can be addressed easily (don't mistake this with the limitations of HDD capacity tho) and HDDs can be replaced as there are standardisations in the way they build the HDDs. There will always be limitations because laptop HDDs will never have the size and power freedoms that desktop HDDs designers have when developing faster HDDs. Anyway, new videocards are good. Major bottleneck, and just over the horizon new products have been faired to be realeased, which would slightly ease the degradation of your laptop against the ever fast moving world of tech around us. It has been claimed that Windows longhorn will be so graphically intensive that it will destroy integrated graphics solutions if the OS ever acquires mainstream domination. That is not good news, especially for these feable laptop GPUs. Anybody who has played games on both XP and Win98 will know the difference in performance. I'm wondering if IntGraphic solutions will struggle with longhorn (and they have usually a 64MB frame and colour buffer taking from the system memory, that the 64MB on M9 may not be enough in 2-3 years. And that is just an OS. Games will take to new levels with the nvFX and R350. Game coders devour the new abilities they can acquire with the topend graphics hardware and utilities and spit out games that leave old systems behind in a hazy mist.
ok rambled on for too long, its been 10mins of constant typing. For new mobo, new memory capabilities, higher performance chipset, new video, saving having to buy a whole new system for US$2000, ermm... shot in the dark $700-800 with a paint job like hypersonics =Dhttp://secure.hypersonic-pc.com/ppics/2761.jpghttp://secure.hypersonic-pc.com/ppics/2760.jpg
Man, I wish hypersonic would sort out there site for once, there site only works 50% of time, idiots...pffftt. I need to see how good the sager5660 can look now and again =D