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post #61 of 579
7/7/05 at 10:43am
Notebooks sold in Germany have german keyboard.That means that you will see german letters in keys.But when you set the language to english or finish the keyboad acts like a classic qwerty keyboard and you dont have to worry about what symbol it is printed on each key.I have bought 3 laptops from Germany and always after 1 week of use i had no problem with the keyboard.Anyway,you have also the option to change the keyboard with an small extra cost but in my case i didnt.

Yesteday i bought for a friend the M3438 with PM 770 2GB ram and 320GB HDDS from the above link for just 1800 euros because i dont have to pay the VAT as a company owner.The above laptop isnt available in Greece and the suggested price will be 2700 euros when it will be available.So we paid 900 euros less.With 900 euros we can get not one spare keyboard but 15.As for the software i dont give a shit.There are so many copies around.It's silly to pay for softaware for computers not for company use in my opinion.
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post #62 of 579
7/7/05 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by christos
Notebooks sold in Germany have german keyboard.That means that you will see german letters in keys.But when you set the language to english or finish the keyboad acts like a classic qwerty keyboard and you dont have to worry about what symbol it is printed on each key.I have bought 3 laptops from Germany and always after 1 week of use i had no problem with the keyboard.Anyway,you have also the option to change the keyboard with an small extra cost but in my case i didnt.

Yesteday i bought for a friend the M3438 with PM 770 2GB ram and 320GB HDDS from the above link for just 1800 euros because i dont have to pay the VAT as a company owner.The above laptop isnt available in Greece and the suggested price will be 2700 euros when it will be available.So we paid 900 euros less.With 900 euros we can get not one spare keyboard but 15.As for the software i dont give a shit.There are so many copies around.It's silly to pay for softaware for computers not for company use in my opinion.
Christo, tell me do u have the the M3438 with PM 770 2GB ram and 320GB HDDS in your hands or u mean that u have ordered it?
I think it will be available at the end of July in Germany, but I doubt it will be with 2X160GBS HDDs. Perhaps with 2X120GBS HDDs.
And what about the M4438. Any information when it will be available in Germany? or in Greece? and how much will it cost? You see I am interested in buing one of them.
Is it ok buing from Germany. Service etc...? As u have understand i live in Greece...
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post #63 of 579
7/7/05 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by christos
Now in German you can buy M3438 with PM 770 , 2GB Ram and 320GB(2x160) hard disks with just 2100 euros.

Check the link

http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/prod...1302gbram320gb
Christo check your above link.
....Nothing is there now....

I checked the link a few hours ago and it was ok with the product but now nothing.

Do u know why?
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post #64 of 579
7/7/05 at 2:08pm
probably it was a wrong model they have posted,because from the official site of siemens,it can only support up to 120G sata Harddisk,not 160G,and at the other hand ,with 2,13G cpu 2G memory and 2*160G harddisk,2100 euro would be too cheap,
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post #65 of 579
7/7/05 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by newtolaptops
Sorry if this has already been asked, but I just wanted to know. If you were to buy a M4348 (or whatever the one with the 16 ms response time is) and you live in America, and you installed American Windows XP and programs, would you be able to use it, or is the hardware only specifically compatible with the countries? Because these fujitsus look very tempting.
actually if u r living in us,dell xps2 would be a good choice,i think dell xps with 2.0 cpu 1G memory 60G 7200 harddisk cost in US for about 2800 USD,that is about 2300 euro,and amilo m4438 with same configure(attention:xps2 use 6800 ultra and 4438 use 6800 go,in another forum test 6800 urtra can get 5000+ in 3d marks 05 meanwhile 6800 go only 3000+) will cost about 2000euro or more,and the most important thing is:it is still not availble now,god know how long it will take until u can buy it.if i am living in US now,i will buy xps2,but thats only my own opinion
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post #66 of 579
7/7/05 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by smart6630
Christo, tell me do u have the the M3438 with PM 770 2GB ram and 320GB HDDS in your hands or u mean that u have ordered it?
I think it will be available at the end of July in Germany, but I doubt it will be with 2X160GBS HDDs. Perhaps with 2X120GBS HDDs.
And what about the M4438. Any information when it will be available in Germany? or in Greece? and how much will it cost? You see I am interested in buing one of them.
Is it ok buing from Germany. Service etc...? As u have understand i live in Greece...
Well that M3438 with PM 770 and 2GB of RAM would be nice but I think I whether wait for a month or two and buy M3438 with PM 760 or PM770 from my country of Finland or buy the M4438 with similar specs from abroad (Sweden). The different keyboard -thing may irrate a bit sometimes (if I remember correctly, Z and Y are in different place in German keyboards) so I try to avoid ordering from Germany. Of course the notebooks are cheap in Germany but I'm not sure how I can have someone change the keyboard to a non-German model when I'm ordering from another country.

Right now, I'm still weighing whether M4438 with WUXGA is worth it. When I think logically WXGA+ would probably be better in games and such, but WUXGA does seem cool, and Dell XPS Gen2 has also WUXGA so that tells you something. It's a pity XPS Dell2 is not sold in Finland, although Dell's notebooks' displays are not the best...
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post #67 of 579
7/7/05 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by christos
At the end of July intel will cut PM prices plus M4438 will be available in Germany.I dont care if i will have to wait one month or more,i will get the laptop from Germany.It's silly with so many cheap German e-shops to buy Fujitsu notebooks from other EU countries.If your problem is the software,try an alternative way
BTW,where did u get this information?i never found any news about the release date of 4438,and now 3438 is selling very well,maybe that will make the company delay more time to release 4438
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post #68 of 579
7/7/05 at 4:06pm
Check this: http://www.geizhals.at/eu/a156572.html

So many e-shops in Germany and in Austria have that Amilo 3438!!!!!!

But .... do they really have it?

.... with so good price...?
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post #69 of 579
7/8/05 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by smart6630
Check this: http://www.geizhals.at/eu/a156572.html

So many e-shops in Germany and in Austria have that Amilo 3438!!!!!!

But .... do they really have it?

.... with so good price...?
most of them doesnt have it at the moment,the model with M760 1G Mem is not in stock in almost all e-shop,and most e-shop said it will be availble in 12,07 again .,so lets wait and see
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post #70 of 579
7/8/05 at 1:27pm
The FSC with 2Gb/2.13Sonoma/2x160gb was only a limited editiom model and FSC will not realase more of them!! i've heard that they were all sold only in one week time Hey Belch i was wondering about the m3438 model - i can get it for 1500euros sa about $1700 Haw is the heating problem solved in this laptop??? Are there and heat-pipes installed on the cpu/Gpu?? couse th go6800 can get hot If u can also tell me haw quiet the laptop fans are
Thanks in advance
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post #71 of 579
7/9/05 at 1:40pm
Well, just in case anyone is interested , I have the M3438G here next to me now. I'm still trying to decide whether it's good or not...

The WXGA+ is better than the WUXGA according to the Fujitsu docs (wider vieving angles, better brightness, response time etc.), but it isn't perfect (or maybe I'm just expecting too much).

I would want more brightness during the mid-day, and while there isn't "ghosting" in the real sense of the word, moving objects do lose their crispness somewhat, though I don't know whether this is the case with all LCD screens...

The resolution could be a bit higher, but I don't know if the WUXGA would already be too high...

As far as the scaling is concerned, it really doesn't degrade the image quality in polygon games, but with 2D objects things do get blurry...

I could go on and on, maybe some of my comments are stupid but keep in mind that this is my very first laptop and first experiences with a LCD screen as well.

If you want me to tell more, give a holler by a post in this thread
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post #72 of 579
7/9/05 at 2:02pm
can someone tell what actually is the difference between the 4438 and the 3438 ?

greets stevie
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post #73 of 579
7/9/05 at 4:29pm
Amilo M3438G has a WXGA+ resolution (1440*900 pixels) while the Amilo M4438G has WUXGA (1920*1200 pixels).

This information would have been very easy to get by simply reading the posts here BTW.

But, hell, I'll just beef my post count...
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post #74 of 579
7/9/05 at 8:19pm
hi RuptuReD

thanks for the answer. i didnt feel like reading 30 posts before finding the answer. hard to filter the redundancy
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post #75 of 579
7/12/05 at 5:54pm
Hi,
Im interested in buying a 3438. Does anyone know if there exists a hacked bios for the GPU? I read in other forums that you cant overclock the 6800 becaus fcs locked the bios. But i will buy a 3438 only if i can overclock, bacause the 6800 in my dell 9300 could be overclocked quite a lot.

And yes, on German keyboards the y and z are switched and there are the additional öüä letters.

And the 3438 is deliverable and quite cheap, for example here:
http://shop.hoh.de/index.htm?noteboo...ns_amilo_m.htm
I like the Version for 1509€ with 2x80gb, 2+512mb and 1,73ghz

BTW I cant find the 4438 in any german onlineshop, so it seems to be delayed to August or even later.
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post #76 of 579
7/13/05 at 5:57am
Thread Starter 
Is the GPU overclock done in Bios? I dont think so. I use Rivatuner and have no problem to overclock. How did you overclock the Dell 9300 in Bios????
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post #77 of 579
7/13/05 at 10:38am
I didnt overclock my dell in Bios, I overclocked it like you with Rivatuner. But in a German Forum I read that the 6800 in the 3438 will automaticaly use the default clocks if you overclock it with rivatuner or other software. So it seems as if FujitsuSiemens locked the default clocks in the Bios, that you cant overclock it with a software tool.
But if it works with your laptop, mybe you can post the 3dMark05 score with the default settings, and the overclocked Scores.
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post #78 of 579
7/13/05 at 2:31pm
I got a question now:
I have looked at both komplett.no and .se today,but none of them r selling M4438 any more,does anyone know what happend?or say does anyone know if M4438 really been sold some where?It is so strange u can buy a FSC somewhere else before u can get it in Germany.and is there any news that when will M4438 be availble in Germany market?
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post #79 of 579
7/13/05 at 3:23pm
Good question, Ryanfox. I noticed also that some if not all Scandinavian online stores that sold M4438 a while ago aren't selling them anymore. That's weird! Although I must inform Ryanfox that I've emailed both Norwegian and Swedish Komplett shops, and they don't deliver outside of their respective countries. This applies to this other Norwegian store I found, www.pcutstyr.no. I think this situation sucks that I can't get the M4438G from anywhere, without making a trip to a country that sells it or paying hundreds of dollars (euros) more because of a country not belonging to EU (customs costs) or changing the keyboard (German keyboard and it's 'ü' letters and such).

Oh well, I guess I'll buy M3438G when the PM-760/770 models are realeased and maybe buy an external display later on (and connect it via DVI). WXGA+ can't be that bad... especially when it's a Fujitsu WXGA+. Plus you also get a better response time: 16ms vs. 25ms (WUXGA).
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post #80 of 579
7/13/05 at 5:23pm

M3438 Bios

Hi all

I'm new to this, been trawling the net to find some answers and this is so far the best I have seen.

What I need 2 know is this, I have a Amilo M3438, and the BIOS has pretty much been locked off, I need 2 get into the extended BIOS 2 make some changes so i can do a fresh install, does neone know how I can do this?

Thanks
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