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post #41 of 63
7/8/05 at 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by RelaxGuy
I learned my lesson, never argue against a laptop in that laptop's particular forum since...
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:bravo:
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post #42 of 63
7/9/05 at 3:26pm
i get around 5600 with xps2
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post #43 of 63
7/10/05 at 4:48am
xps2 all the way!
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post #44 of 63
7/10/05 at 1:33pm
Sapphire has a new card cooling solution using heat pipes and some kind of "liquid metal coolant". Its supposed to be way better than water. Hope it is and eventually adapted for laptops.
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post #45 of 63
7/10/05 at 8:16pm
can some xps2 owner check to see if this is possible on their system???


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post #46 of 63
7/10/05 at 8:57pm
What's that? Play CS and have AutoCAD or 3D StudioMax running at the same time? I'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to run a game and have an application running at the same time, but there you go...once again the power of the P4 w/ HT has been revealed. This is a bit of an extreme example of how the P4 has an advantage in terms of multitasking. If you need this feature, then by all means...get the 9880!
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post #47 of 63
7/11/05 at 12:10am
i am sorry if it is an extreme example, but a simple example has already been posted in this thread;

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opening the bisoncap and start recording,open windvd with any movie, open wmp with any mpgfile,open sonicstage with mp3's, burn a cd/dvd with 2nd opticdrive,open a webpage and finally run bf2 on singleplayer. No slowdowns?nope.
so, can you answer my original question in this thread?
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post #48 of 63
7/11/05 at 12:43am
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Originally Posted by Argh
i am sorry if it is an extreme example, but a simple example has already been posted in this thread;



so, can you answer my original question in this thread?
Remember when lifting the Sager 9880, use your knees and not your back.
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post #49 of 63
7/11/05 at 1:06am
you got to do better than that, killah lol.
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post #50 of 63
7/11/05 at 2:15am
lol killa
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post #51 of 63
7/11/05 at 3:11am
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Originally Posted by Argh
you got to do better than that, killah lol.
I try..I try..

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post #52 of 63
7/15/05 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by Michael2575
Sapphire has a new card cooling solution using heat pipes and some kind of "liquid metal coolant". Its supposed to be way better than water. Hope it is and eventually adapted for laptops.
Interesting....

http://www.physorg.com/news4198.html

" Liquid Metal is non-toxic, non-flammable, and completely environmentally safe. Sapphire's exciting new cooler is a compact, low-profile design using only one additional PC slot. Filled and sealed, it requires no user intervention, no reservoir or refilling and it is card resident so it requires no additional mounting space. The revolutionary use of an electromagnetic pump means no internal moving parts, low power consumption and delivers near silent operation. "

My first thought was mercury, but after reading the first line that is not possible; wonder what they are using.
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post #53 of 63
7/15/05 at 12:57pm
That is very cool...literally...lol

Now if they could just figure out a way to cram one into a 9880, you guys would be laughing....no more space heater effect
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post #54 of 63
7/15/05 at 3:50pm
Sorry it's my 1st post, so I hope that this doesn't flame anyone...

When I was deciding between the XPS2 and the 9880, I found the 9880 to be more futureproof with the 6xx-series processors (b/c of EM64T and HT). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that the PM's in the XPS2 can be upgraded to 64-bit processors w/o a whole new motherboard (which I don't think Dell even does upgrades).

So in general, for the near-term the Dell is most likely the superior machine. I think Dell is also given a bad rap on their quality, as I had a Latitude before my 9880 that worked like a charm.

However, once Longhorn comes out, the 9880 can take over the XPS2 with its P4 6xx processors... So for me, the deciding factors between the XPS2 and the 9880 were EM64T, more RAM, dual optical drives, and SATA RAID.

Plus, it's not very often when I can game on the go with my laptop. If I would, it would either be on an airplane or on the Metro (which I doubt would be very smart )

Just my 2 cents.
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post #55 of 63
7/15/05 at 10:03pm
I own an XPS-2, but I can see the point most of the 9880 owners made.

I look at the XPS-2 as cool running, fast gaming-machine with a decent battery.

There really isn't a winner in the argument, as you obviously have a need each is going to fill (XPS gaming, 9880 all-around DTR).
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post #56 of 63
7/17/05 at 10:57pm
I love my 9300 for gaming, I loved my xps2 for gaming as well. I found the xps2 had about two hours of battery life for typing my lab reports and the occasional BS paper for human sexuality. The XPS2 was an awesome gaming machine buy I returned it becuase it was just too much money for me to spend. It ran hot but was not too much to stand through my jeans and did catch a few eyes. I love the fact that I can run my 6800 overclocked for 2 hours with the cpu @ 1.73Ghz and the vid card scoring 4200 3dmarks in 05 on battery. Both are awesome machines and so is the Sager, laptop gaming is here to stay!
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post #57 of 63
7/18/05 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by JWolves
Sorry it's my 1st post, so I hope that this doesn't flame anyone...

When I was deciding between the XPS2 and the 9880, I found the 9880 to be more futureproof with the 6xx-series processors (b/c of EM64T and HT). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that the PM's in the XPS2 can be upgraded to 64-bit processors w/o a whole new motherboard (which I don't think Dell even does upgrades).

So in general, for the near-term the Dell is most likely the superior machine. I think Dell is also given a bad rap on their quality, as I had a Latitude before my 9880 that worked like a charm.

However, once Longhorn comes out, the 9880 can take over the XPS2 with its P4 6xx processors... So for me, the deciding factors between the XPS2 and the 9880 were EM64T, more RAM, dual optical drives, and SATA RAID.

Plus, it's not very often when I can game on the go with my laptop. If I would, it would either be on an airplane or on the Metro (which I doubt would be very smart )

Just my 2 cents.
Wolves, welcome to the Forum.

The PM on the Gen 2 is stuck on 32 bit architecture. The 9880 currently do have the EMT64 P4 so I guess you can call it "future proof". Ultimately it comes down to battery life now since both machines have the Ultra card and same res screens and there are other spec differences for the DVD/RW drives and HDDs.

If you can wait - WAIT. The Clevo 900K looks exciting but it will be expensive.
I'm sure you've posted to that thread.

The Gen 2 has better deals especially with the 35% off coupon and their warranty is at home with completecare package and cheaper warranty as well.

By the way, you have no chance to game on the 9880 on the plane since it chews the battery life like its going out of fashion and the 75W power provided by the plane does not even come close to what the 9880 needs. Same with the Gen 2 for the plane power supply but you'll probably get 1 to 1 1/2 hr gaming using its own battery.

Lots of things to weigh and consider. Both are great machine, the X2 would be my pick, site unseen. Tough choice though...

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post #58 of 63
8/5/05 at 1:43am
yup, after reading both arguments, I agree with both sides...As for 9880 being a longer lasting in the future, by that time both will be obsolete lol.

Xps = Cheap, Superior Gaming Laptop


9880 = Spendy TRUE DTR with Raid/P4, Dual Drives
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post #59 of 63
8/7/05 at 6:05pm

Sager Screens

How are the Sager screens? There are problems with some of the the Dell screens I just wondered how the Sagers are.
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post #60 of 63
8/12/05 at 9:36pm
I have the 9880 with the WSXGA screen (1680 X 1050), 17" widescreen.

It's beautiful! Not 1 single dead/stuck pixel.
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