What is wrong with Dell? - Page 10  

Stop it. You all keep saying you will stop all this flaming, yet two posts later, we're back to square one.

"dell's are bought by people who are CHEAP and/or BROKE"
Well, if Boeing, Ford, and a bunch of other companies are cheap and/or broke, then, yeah, I guess you're right. (Yeah, I know. Ford was a bad example.) Also, if people who buy $4000 XPS systems are cheap and/or broke, then, yeah, you're right.
I just realized something. You are completely right. Dells ARE bought by people who are cheap and/or broke. However, that is not the only type of people who buy Dells. All kinds of people buy Dells, whether they are dirt poor, or they are unbelievably rich.

"dell's are made using 2003 technology"
Dual core and BTX technology might be from 2003, but that would mean Dell is not the only company that uses old technology. I know a lot of companies that are just coming out with the dual core.

"stlee";

Will you EVER get it through your head that I never said that the only people who buy Dells were "cheap and broke"? Will you ever be able to grasp the notion that that was an issue between you and MWillman - not me?

First of all, saying Dell caters a "large part" of its business to entry level and inexperienced users does not preclude them from targeting the business markets. Furthermore, I never said they didn't offer high-end systems, so I have no idea how you created that argument. Second, I never said that Dell was a bad company for targeting the lower end - what I said was that there was a correlation between lower-end hardware and the overall quality of the products.

Once again, you completely misrepresented my point. I said that the Dell of three years ago would have tested enough units to not have them ship with the LCD issues. Many PC companies have changed their product testing policies, either in response to issues with prior models (Gateway/eMachines, HP, Sony), while others revamped the testing procedures as a cost-savings matter (Dell, Apple, Sager). I also said that they fixed the problem by switching suppliers, so the point you raise about any current issues being due to customers not reporting them is irrelevant.

Because neither MWillman or I even stated which models we had worked with, your contention that the respective business bought low-end equipment is pure speculation, devoid of any factual proof whatsoever. I can't speak for where MWillman has worked, but where I work, they use mid to high-range systems exclusively. They also use a mix of desktops and notebooks, so I have worked with both sides of the business line. You make a false assumption that because we've seen poor quality, that the models must have been low-end as well. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

That being said, Freak4Dell, I do thank you for helping this thread get back on the intended topic. We may not agree on everything (although we do agree on some of the points), but we can at least focus on the topic at hand.

you just don't get it do you....you think you do, but you have no idea... ..

you insist on taking this thread back "on topic", but you failed to realize that you engaged into the conversation with me by trying to scold me by thinking you were "on topic" by responding to my response to the other guy in here, who will remain unnamed since he's sensistive to brining his name up.

But you weren't..not even close. So now, you want to revert the topic back to being "on topic" and make it seem like i was trying to dodge your questions and I was the one that wasn't on topic in the first place...get a clue

you were the one trying to scold me by bringing up points that were "on topic" but your attempt to scold me did not work since i never doubted the problems with DELLS, thus they were moot at best.


i've also noticed that you want your "issues" to be answered so badly, but when they are finally answered with intelligent opinions, you seem to denounce it as being wrong and misdirected...

You have your opinion and FREAK4DELL gave his, and you seem to be the only one who wants to be RIGHT. So how do you want your questions answered? Should your previous responses just be copied and pasted to your question so they are one and the same with no digression whatsoever? That seems to be how you like it.

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You don't understand, stlee. If someone starts a thread expressly to bash Dell, you can't say anything in defense, or it's off-topic! I mean, regardless of the fact that Dell just announced that they are doubling their U.S. support service in Oklahoma City, regardless of the fact that they are the best bang for the buck in notebooks, you can't defend them or you're a bad bad person!

lol cryhavoc......thanks for the comment, but your OFF TOPIC!! STOPPPPPP!!!!!




Let's get this back "ON TOPIC".....

tntoak attempted to give me negative rep

i do not believe DELL's are made for cheap or broke people

i do not believe DELLS are made using 2003 technology....

what i believe is wrong because i don't have experience in IT..nor do i care to.

too bad their attemptss don't affect us because we are way up ahead of them as far as rep points are concerned...they just come up as GREYS, not REDS..so who cares

shooting blanks is not a bad thing is it?

Nothings wrong with Dell. Its just that some people have bad experiences with maybe 1 comp and they put the blame on every computer that the company makes.

Also, for the people who say Dells are for cheap people, then by all means go and buy an alienware or something with the exact same specs and pay and extra $1000-2000 for the case; no ones stopping you

It will be when my 24 hour rep period is up.

hey..get back "ON TOPIC" dammit

These threads have topics?

I just found out that Dell is in the process of buying out AW.

http://cnet.news.today.delltakeover.html

Dells are middle of the road notebooks.

They are for middle of the road users.

If that bothers you, to bad.

I drive a Ford, its a nice car but I dont get on car forums and try to say its better then a Jaguar.

.... You're aware that Ford OWNS Jaguar, right?

And secondly... you're right... Ford only makes middle of the road cars....



Oops.

Yes but they are still separate models and they have differences in what they are capable of and in cost.

I would rather have a Jaguar XJ series then a Ford Focus.

And this applies to computers, how? The XPS2 looks (in most people's opinion) as good or better than an Alienware/Sager/etc, is as fast or incrimentally slower, is significantly lighter, and MUCH cheaper.

That's like saying you'd still buy a Jag if the Focus looked as good, was as fast, but cost 30% cheaper. Mmmkay.

Anyway your not proving anything except that you disagree.

Sorry but that and a $1.50 will get you a ride on a subway.

Instead of trying to get personal and show how good you are at insulting how about proving me wrong.

I say Dells are middle of the road systems that use generic electronics prove me wrong. Get the serial numbers and manufactors of all the major parts and show that they are the top of the line.

That is a geniune owning! A humilating defeat!