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Atheros vs. Intel opinions based on facts (no flaming please)

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I was deciding whether to get atheros or intel as a wireless networking card. As it stands there seems to be no doubt that atheros provides faster speeds and throughput.

Now I am not very familiar with wireless tech. I see the terms 802.11a, b/g, and a/b/g being used to refer to wireless networks and 802.11a 802.11g 802.11b 802.11a/g being used to refer to wireless chipsets. I would like to know what exactly is the difference and are they compatible. Can a 802.11b card access a 802.11a network? And what is the industry standard at the moment and which is most used at wi-fi hot spots.

Quote:
Your competitors claim that Super G causes interference with nearby networks and other wireless equipment. How do you answer that criticism?
Certainly some of our competitors appear to be on the defensive. The interference concern is largely misplaced. Our understanding of the tests being done show two routers located within a few feet of each other. And they claim that when one router was a Super G router, the other router, on a different channel, would see interference and that throughput would go down. But the same thing happens when you use two completely standard 802.11g products.

So what would you want customers to know?
Typically, wireless routers are not located as close together as they were in this test, so I think that the test arrangement is somewhat contrived. Secondly, any standard 802.11g product will exhibit the same effect when they’re on different channels. As soon as soon as you move them 20 or 30 feet apart, which is a much more common situation, then the problem goes away. It goes away in the Super G case, too.
This quote came from an article at http://techworthy.com/Laptop/Februar...Fi-Pioneer.htm about atheros cards. Would this interence cause problems say if you had some bluetooth headphones and a bluetooth adapter in your usb port?

Anyway what is your take on atheros vs intel. The article says atheros are better at conserving battery energy than intel 802.11b cards and atheros (at least in toshibas) don't run that much higher than intel(20 for the 802.11a and 60 for the 802.11a/g) so which is better and more reliable?
post #2 of 18
I'd say anything but Intel for wireless cards. And about compatibility...
A is compatible only with itself. B and G are compatible with each other. Because G is faster, I'd say it's the current "standard."
post #3 of 18
most wifi hot spots are b just for compatibility reasons. Atheros will give you super g with a super g supported router. if you're mostly doing web stuff then you're limited by your isp anyhow. Your goal is a stable, fast connection that will give decent range. If you do have a choice then I would go with atheros based, but hey, all the centrinos are intel, so...
post #4 of 18
atheros is the way to go man... the 5004 chipset cards are wonderful... however they do interfere with some cheaper products... For example, in class if i set my laptop to 100mw of power to the card which is the max... if someone sitting next to me is trying to access the internet via wifi... they lose their connection... however when i disable mine or turn the power down to about 30mw all is fine again...as for performance it is the best i have found so far
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
So I could have the fastest connection and screw with everyone else's too. Sounds like a good idea
post #6 of 18
Where can one find this card?
post #7 of 18
i have atheros (B/G) in my 258kao ...my bro has intel (a/b/g) in his z71v and my mom has prism 2 (b) in her thinkpad......i can't dell the difference between any of the 2 in regular usage. I have a g router @ home so all 3 lappies work with it.
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post #9 of 18
hmm looks like a interesting card.

I may have to look into it, I kinda like the side affect of causing other peoples wireless connection to stop working. Be fun to mess with some friends at school
post #10 of 18
Alrighty I read this the other day but here goes it

b is the oldest it runs on a 2.4ghz freq and gets 10mbps
a came after that but runs on a 2.5 ghz freq and gets 54mbps
now 2.5ghz is better because most wireless phones and also microwaves operate at 2.4 ghz which causese interference however it wasnt backwards so they introduced
g which operates on a 2.4 ghz freq and gets 54mbps

The unoficial turbo setups allow up to 72mbps but its pretty much overkill right now.
post #11 of 18
the atheros card max out @ 100mw while the intel card max out @like 33mw(right?). would this help out in gaining some range? As in the signle from the card to the router cuz i always get a strong signal at school but it seem that the singal from the card to router just isn't there. Because then i go to a web page it will take a while for it to find it, but ones it does it will download in a matter of seconds same for files( takes about30sec to find a file sometimes i have to refreash or restart the download then when it starts it does it very quickly.
post #12 of 18
802.11a uses 5.0GHz, not 2.5.

At my house I get about 27Mbps real throughput (ftp transfer) on my 802.11g setup. This is pretty consistent, so that seems to be the best I'll ever get out of it. (Intel setup.) I also have an Atheros PCMCIA card in my old laptop, I should check its speed sometime.
post #13 of 18
after looking at the pictures for a little while... my antenna connectors are at the top of the card... make sure you look at where your wires are coming from before you order. If you don't think your cables can't reach the new connectors for any reason i wouldn't order. A simple look at them should tell you yes or no
post #14 of 18
I have the CM9 (Atheros 5004 MP) in my Z71V.

It works much much better than the Intel 2200 it replaced. Its not just the extra output power that helps but it also has much better recieving sensitivity.

This card is also the smaller of the two "MiniPCI" cards that are commonly made.

With the 4.1 version of the Atheros drivers and my old DLink DI-624 SuperG router i get consistant 108mbps connections to the router clear to the other side of the house. I havent measured the actual throughput, i'm sure its not really 108, but it is significatly faster then the intel 2200 ever was.
post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
Ok how would I go about dismantling a laptop to install an atheros card... say it was a compaq. I know every laptop has a different setup so has anyone dismantled a compaq before?
post #16 of 18
i did when i had my x1000 way back when...what model do you have?
post #17 of 18
Is there one with A support too? THe one I found here only has G/B support...

http://www.coboc.com/diy/Config.asp?Section=50206
post #18 of 18
What is the "x" support? Also, here's the official page for that one...

http://datacom.engeniustech.com/prod...4&cat=Embedded
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