Ferrari 4000...post your benchmarks!! - Page 2

Turion = AMD64 performance. Just see the gamepc review :http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...&cookie_test=1

But ofcause the performance of the socked 939 AMD64 can be tweaked by faster (e.g., dual) ram.

And the Techreport benches are again of the P-Ms with 400MHz bus. But just check the UT2004 sofware rendering test - or the LAME MP3 encoding tests. That 2MB cache on the Dothan really comes in handy.

Yes it was running with memory that has LOWER latency than DDR2 and enough throughput for any moder processor. So what?

Turion is slightly faster than socket 754 Athlon at the same speed.

Memory speeds/sizes/timigs/WHATEVER are OVERRATED. It very much depends on the task, and most application see no gain when switching to the faster memory. (see recent tests by anand on DDR-500)

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But I agree that direct comparison would be better. Comparing downclocked x700 Ferrarri 400x with 8104 would be interesting.

ummm... wombatten... don't go by gamepc's crap benchmarks... their testing methods are apparently flawed

Warning! Linking to obviously flawed benchmarks detected!

Grow up guys.... When ever you see a benchmark that shows your CPU is not the fastest in the world, then its must definately be flawed, or what?? Which benchmarks should I trust then? Anandtech also has a bench that shows P-M are faster pr. MHz than AMD64 (see my previous post). - that makes 3 benchmarks with more or less same conclusion. Sure there may be a fault in the GamePC one, but atleast it shows Turion=Athlon64. But what about the other two, then?

Thats why I've been calling out for equally-clocked X700 test of TM8104WLMi vs F4005WLMi.

I own a Ferrari4005WLMi myself, but that doesn't mean that I have to go around with "AMD" glasses on and fool myself into believing my CPU is the fastest thing in the world.

Lies, Damn Lies, and statistics!

stock my ferrari 4000 got a 6073 on 03 and when i OC with powerstrip 30 on the ram and 50 on the GPU i got 6589. It is one of the best portable powerhouse you can buy with style.

sometime I might decide to underclock my video card and run some 3dmarks... if I have time... lol... someone else just do it

So basically, the best way to sum this entire thread up, is that the people who test hardware must be human too. Some tests show the PM is faster in games, some tests show the Turion. What does that mean? It means they aren't using the same factors. Yes, there are "ghosts in the machine" so to speak, but all in all, components perform the same unless outside factors are altered. The only REAL way to compare the speed between a Turion and a PM, would be to have the same FSB, same speed RAM, same chipsets, same cooling setup, etc etc. None of which are even possible. I know for a fact that Pentium chips will do MP3 encodes faster (a suggestion was made that someone test that speed) and I know for a fact that AMD chips will run games faster. I dont care what you say (see my sig, I own a PM... wow, I must be unbiased, try that on for size) in a hard-out gaming run the AMD _should_ perform better. I will admit I dont have a Turion to try. But, it brings me back to the topic of my original post in this thread, the X700 can easily be assumed as a "crappy" video card, due to it's extremely low benches in the Ferrari 4005.

Furthermore, I have seen the same area of benches on the Asus Z71v (around 2300 in 3dm05), which has a 6600go in it (I dont think its PCI-E, dont know much about Asus lappies) but those benches are obtained with a PM processor. So far as I know, a 6600 is slightly faster than an X700, but I am more of a desktop whiz, so I cant confirm that. If the 6600 is indeed faster, and the benches of the two are coming out to be the same, then the slower video card in the Ferrari must be made up (slightly) by the Turion...

I have totally confused myself. I think that all that junk above says X700 = doggie doodoo, but you can kinda redeem the lappie that has one by having a chip that can take the gamer heat... Someone please make a dual-core A64mobile with a 7800go... I'd buy it and the ice packs you would need for your thighs and wrists while using it.

Should, would, could. Show me a single game-benchmark where a 2GHz AMD64 outperforms the M760. If you find one, I bet it is Unreal Turnament 2004. M760 beats even 2.4GHz AMD64's in this test
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...d=pm915&page=8

The X700 is the best card you can get in its own market section, which is: MIDSIZE PORTABLE COOLRUNNING laptops. Although the main purpose of my laptop is office applications, I was looking to buy a laptop with at least RM9700 just to be able to play steam counter-strike. But then I found that I could get one with the X700 with double the performance for nearly the same price (please note that the RM9700 ≈ R9600 in desktops, while X700 ≈ R9800) and still a relatively low power consumption. AFAIK the 6600GO uses more power than the RM X7000.

I'm sure a lot of guys like kevineugenius (who are looking for hardcore-gaming DTR laptops and don't care about portability) will not be satisfied with the performance of the x700. You guys should look for a different laptop - no doubt about that. But the performance is just perfect for me.

The 6600 GT outperforms the X700 PRO because it runs at higher frequencies. However, if you change the GDDR3 to DDR, then the better pr. MHz performance of the X700 starts to have an impact. That's why the RM X700 scores higher in synthetic benchmarks (3dmarks), while the 6600GO is actually faster in many games.

Correction: The 6600 (non-GT) uses core/mem frequences of 300/500 while the X700 (non-PRO) uses 400/700. Don't know which one has the best performance pr. MHz.

I still don't get why don't you simply downclock your X700 to 8104 levels and benchmark it...

That means that general claims "PM is faster than Turion at the same speed" and "Turion is faster than PM at the same clockspeed" are false.

I'll do it later tonight when I get home... I don't get why anyone else isn't doing it... it's not hard to downclock a freakin videocard...

acer ferrari 4000 here in italy:
superpi
1M: 38s
4M: 3min:45s
that's great.. I can't see your scores!
48s in superpi 1M
and more tha 4 minutes in 4M!

sure to have turion model ML-37 2.0GHz?
or turion ML-34 1.8GHz?

Are you talking to yourself, WLF46WLF? The top superpi benchmark looks like it may have made on a 2.2GHz turion.

sorry for my english.. by the way.. we have turion64 ML-37! and and up there the scores.. any idea of these differences??

I was talking to you, possessor of ferrari 4000, in general

Ok, I think this might be interesting. Explain that a tad more please?

Wrong. You can't compare different architectures by their frequencies.