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post #21 of 39
7/8/05 at 2:44am
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Originally Posted by Lord_Asriel
Hmm, according to: http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-64-e.html both the Athlon FX's and the Athlon 64 X2 4800 use 939 OuPGA packaging!

Anyone got an Athlon 64 X2 I can borrow?
Keep in mind that you need software designed for dual processors to take advantage of their speed. At least, this is what I have read by others.
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post #22 of 39
7/8/05 at 3:10am
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Originally Posted by Pastkev

What is you name? Yes, Buicks are made by GM.
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post #23 of 39
7/8/05 at 11:36am
Yes the cpu's are upgradeable.

Amd athlon socket 939 cpus are what is installed in the notebook.

AMd inssued a press release where they said any socket 939 cpu can be used on the socket 939. The only thing needed for it to work is a bios update.

The gpu addition is through an external express card slot. I believe you can get one right now.


I also have this feeling. How about ati getting us the redeon xpress chipset instead of the xpressM.THe radeon xpress(not M) doesnt have the integrated gpu.That means we can have our own gpu installed on the new chipset. IT maybe expensive but I believe it is worth becasue then no INtel notebook can beat an amd 4000 with an nvidia 6800(7800 will be an overkill).THe only thing that will stop AMD from performing even better is certainly the dual channel issue though. HOpe HP sorts it out soon.
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post #24 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:01pm
I got a question: I am thinking of getting the R4035 from a store soon, it comes with a 3500+, the 128 MB option for GPU, 1 GB of RAM, etc. my question is since it comes with an 8 cell battery, how much life do you think I could get out of it if I underclocked the CPU from 2.2 to 800 MHZ ? I will only be using on battery during school and I know the life will suck with the 8 cell, so just wnat to know if I underclock that far how much improvement if any I will get. I can't order from Compaq for 2 reasons:

1. my credit card has a $500 limit (CA $ mind you)
2. From buying an extended warrenty from the store, anythign happens in the next 3 years, I walk it a few blocks from my off campus house at college and get it fixed, no shipping.
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post #25 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:04pm
DOnt expect more than a 2 to 2-30 at max battery life.
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post #26 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Pastkev
Keep in mind that you need software designed for dual processors to take advantage of their speed. At least, this is what I have read by others.
I run 64 bit Gentoo Linux on this laptop. Trust me, It'll take advantage of a dual core processor. Now if only I can find a BIOS update that'll let me put an Athlon 64 X2 in there.
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post #27 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:10pm
well, I called ATi about the Surrondview external adapter support and they said it is up to HP to provide an adapter that could support the Surroundview capability in the chipset. So in other words, we'll never be able to take advantage of such technology because HP wont give a shit.
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post #28 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:12pm
HP sucks. Good laptops spoiled by their bad product support. I like their laptops but their support truly sucks.
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post #29 of 39
7/8/05 at 12:13pm
Alas, that is my dillema, I want my cake and eat it to. I want a laptop that can play games while I am not on battery, but give me 3-4 hrs while on battery for when at school. If I have to choose I will take on with the good battery life. I am also looking at the LG LS50 which has 6.5 hrs of life, but shared graphics.
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post #30 of 39
7/8/05 at 2:22pm
Thread Starter 
A while back, I was inquiring diligently into the newest laptops that said they offered "upgradeable" video cards... It is true, the laptops have easily replaceable video cards and CPU's -BUT- this method of easily replacing parts is for the OEM's only. They are not consumer replaceable unless the OEM supplies the parts... What has happened is that some of the OEM's are marketing this replaceable technology on the consumer level where it was never meant to be marketed... So, it may be "theoretically possible", but for the average Joe it is not "practically possible". HP would need to provide the BIOS upgrades and the physical parts; and we know it will be a cold day before that happens... Add to this the fact that ATI will not sell you a laptop video card all by itself (at least not as of a few months back).
Now, that said, I think the CPU replacement would be much easier since anyone can get their hands on those. If the originally installed chip is soldered or something crazy, then perhaps it would be a bit harder to do...
From what I can tell at AMD's website, the only "Mobile" Athlon 64's that they sell are based on the "Socket 754, lidless uPGA".
So... Any 939 based chip is indeed the desktop varient from what I can tell. One would think it would be easy enough to change out (provided you can open your laptop and get it back together successfully!)
So, all this winded soap box talking that I just did is my way of saying the technology is there to replace the various parts IF someone will sell them to the consumer...
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post #31 of 39
7/8/05 at 2:28pm
It is my take that the SurroundView technology that ATI has simply adds another DAC and an output so you can drive 3 monitors at once, but it still uses the same GPU. Though I never expect HP to develop such an ExpressCard54 device that can do it.
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post #32 of 39
7/8/05 at 2:35pm
Thread Starter 
Another point of the Mobile compared to Desktop CPU:
Mobile Turion uses 25w (ML series) to 35w (MT series)
Desktop uses 67W to 89W
So the 4000+ can't help but use more battery power (all things being equal).
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post #33 of 39
7/9/05 at 2:12am
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Originally Posted by emtownsend
Another point of the Mobile compared to Desktop CPU:
Mobile Turion uses 25w (ML series) to 35w (MT series)
Desktop uses 67W to 89W
So the 4000+ can't help but use more battery power (all things being equal).
Precisely...get a v2000z!!
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post #34 of 39
7/18/05 at 9:52pm
IN amd's case it has not been that way. Amd cpus certainly have gone cooler but battery life has not been of much help. I believe the dual channel has been deactivated for the same reason. To save it from heat and increase battery life. After All I am satisied with how it performs. I dont play games much.

Btw way boy those new drivers have certainly improved my cards performance by a huge margin.
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post #35 of 39
7/19/05 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by devarshi84
IN amd's case it has not been that way. Amd cpus certainly have gone cooler but battery life has not been of much help. I believe the dual channel has been deactivated for the same reason. To save it from heat and increase battery life. After All I am satisied with how it performs. I dont play games much.

Btw way boy those new drivers have certainly improved my cards performance by a huge margin.

I concur on the dual channel memory issue. It was a matter of power. If there had been a smaller wattage processor available, they could have activated it.

We all know the ram gets really hot. Heat = used power. I believe this is why they limited us to PC2700 as well, although you can run PC3200 if your sticks are no larger then 512.

In the end, they still give you the most for your money.
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post #36 of 39
7/20/05 at 12:55pm
I am happy with my lappie completely. the battery life of 4+ hrs is great and its not hot too.

Btw about the memory you talking about. Do u think ddr400 1 gigs each in the notebook will be better??
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post #37 of 39
7/21/05 at 2:42am
I really like this thread, keep it goin, Im about to purchase a zv6000 or a R4000, Im kind of confused on which one I like better, design wise.
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post #38 of 39
7/23/05 at 2:13pm
BUmp. can some1 please answer my question?
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post #39 of 39
7/23/05 at 4:53pm
I don't know anyone that has been able to use 2 gig of PC3200. Very few have tried.

Only know of it being tried once. He used corsair and it wouldn't run on battery only.

I did read a thread where someone said they were able to get 1 stick of crucial PC3200 running fine, but they had not tried 2.

I have 1 gig, 512 x 2 of Corsair. I use some rather large programs and have never even come close to using it all. It's very hard to get it much pass 600meg being used.

So I can't justify spending any more money on ram.
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