Man in Florida arrested who was using unauthorized Wi-Fi - Page 11

nope i said nothing about anyone stealing and you compound your error by stating that “everything has value” – i said it had no value therefore it could not be stolen…

obviously you have a problem comprehending what you read and therefore your entire argument is based on an invalid premise - that i said the person picking up the wrapper would be a thief, they would not... and you continue to repeat this same mistake throughout your diatribe...

i leave you with the following legal phrase as an example…

de minimis non curat lex – the law does not deal with trifles/small things…

again your entire argument is based on a trifle and trying to have a meaningful debate with you is also trifling…

therefore i see no purpose in continuing this debate with someone who unfortunately has a learning disorder or is unfamiliar with critical thinking...

as i said before i do this for fun and hopefully to bring some knowledge of law to the table... this is not fun so i leave you to say what you want… that is your right...

just wanted to clear up the difference between what i said and what you indicated i said...

maybe you should try education… then you would learn that yes the law recognizes that things exist that have no value… sorry to burst your little bubble… again, the law really doesn’t care what you think… your opinions are meaningless… but keep deluding yourself if it pleases you… i’m certain you’re a legend in your own mind…

lol i never said the law cares what i think, i know it doesnt. I also know that with a good lawyer the law can be played around with.
And finally, i know that you cant keep a consistant debate, nor can you offer possitive feedback to those expressing their views on the issue. This isnt a "Hi im Dozzit, and your all stupid cause you dont know or agree with the law" thread. We are talking about how a few people were arrested for using a service that appeared to them to be free. The reason this thread is so interesting is because OF the topic and how MOST people dont agree with it. Thats fine you dont agree with it, but to get pissed because people dont see it in the same light as you is silly. You stated your opinion and you keep laughing at those who dont agree. SImple as that. You then wanted a debate, i gave you a debate, then you use your ego trip to run off. Triffle yes?

Anyways you do bring up a good point, Im just wasting my time talking to someone who wont accept some people dont agree with you. Better yet, you resort to belittling the person you started the debate with.



Anyone else want to share their opinion or views on this news thread? All opinions are welcome, i wont belittle you for them.. though Dozzit might.

you wear your ignorance like a badge of honor...

i assume you're a troll so i'll stop wastin' my time after this...

you state wrongly:
the facts as quoted from the starting post of this thread:
and another post from the beginning commenting on it showing again IT WAS ONE PERSON AND HE WAS PARKED TO GET THE SIGNAL...

If you read the entire thread you would know that a fellow forum user was also arrested/ticketed and was facing charges.
This too were we talking about. Its ok, you wear blindness like a badge as well.
Btw arnt you going to stop replying since you said it was so "triffle"? lol

Scenerio:

1) clueless end user, knows nothing about computers, let alone anything about wireless connection.
2) thinks wireless connection that comes with his/hers pc/laptop is like cell phone service.
3) sitting at home turns on pc/laptop (has no internet ip provider).
3A) windows is set to handle wirless connections. User does not know this.
3b) windows discovers a signal and decides to use it, once again user is not subcribed to ip provider.
4) decides to surf internet, clicks on IE and begins to surf net.
5) gets caught

NOW IS HE/SHE GUILTY OF STEALING INTERNET ACCESS?

good point, it is one thing if somebody is using airsnort and is cracking your wep key, but it is completely different when someone has no knowledge of how wireless technology operates.

I have been caught several months ago, when sitting in my car and on the adsl with my wireless.
so far, the case seems to be "dead".The accuser has put a wep key.
In fact He should pay me for the service...

I am still using some open connections, and if someone tell me it is wrong, I will reply:"show me where, it is a free country , no"

I'm currently using my neighbor's wireless as I post this.

yeah, t bert, I called the cops, and you will be prosecuted!

if you have the option, ask for the electric chair, more fun!!!!

Oh crap.

Windows doesn't automatically connect to unsecured wireless access points, so at some point, "Clueless LUser" would have to authorize that connection.

Your right, windows doesnt do that... The program/drivers for the wireless card does, unless you set it otherwise. And the Less computer literate probably dont even know whats going on.

ok...point taken. clueless user is still a clueless user, how does he/she know otherwise its someone elses and not "free connection"? remember the scenerio...especially #1.

wrong, my laptop connects itself to the strongest connection.no matter if it is "authorized" or not .
as long windows let me be on line for free, it is not of my responsability but the responsability of Bill Gate...

yeah, HE is the troublemaker...he is the geek who has set this mess!

While I don't really agree with the idea of taking someone's bandwidth just because it's available, I also don't agree with making it a prosecutable crime; much less a felony.

Wireless networks are configured by default to allow public access, and wireless cards are configured by default to connect to whatever networks are available. As long as that continues to be the case, arresting people for it on felony charges is ludicrous. If that is the legal policy, the hardware should be designed to force users to manually choose networks to connect to (thus eliminating the accidental crime), and as others have said, wireless networks should be security protected by default.

I live on the 12th floor of an appartment building... and 2-3 times per week, I come home from work with a little balloon telling me I'm connected to "hawking" network...
My windows settings are only for my own router, but I find that if the router freezes (which is 2-3 times a week) or if I power it off, Windows switches me right over to the next one...
Funny enough, it's not the only unprotected network I can "see" in the building, and not the strongest, but it's the only one it connects to if my connection goes out...
I've walked around the building with my laptop to narrow down where this guy could be... 10th floor, north of elevator is best signal I can get...

wow I cant believe this post is still going... arghh! I just helped it!

way to contribute to a this thread

stealing internet access through some else's "open" wi-fi connection is not necessarily illegal. but the laws are so muddy these days, it's hard to know what is and what isn't anymore.

it's up to the owner to be responsible to set the WEP on his/her network if he/she doesn't want someone from outside to ride their Wi-Fi.

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