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post #121 of 155
7/14/05 at 4:39pm
I think we were done with that already.
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post #122 of 155
7/15/05 at 12:57am
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Originally Posted by rage4order
Let me ask this, how many of you think that if Rick would've PM'd somebody that info, it wouldn't have wound up on this or any board that same day anyway??? Geez, let it rest already...
agreed. back on topic we go. (wouldn't want to have to close my first thread )
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post #123 of 155
7/15/05 at 1:17am
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Originally Posted by 1CenT
from what i heard the x700 uses less power than the go6600... and ya with normal use. i'm guessing the x700 can underclock itself enough to be equivalent to the powerusage of the x600 in 2d environments..
Don't worry, the X700 will be underclocked.

Asus have been known to underclock the GPU. It was like that when they had the ATI 9700, it was underclock then too.
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post #124 of 155
7/15/05 at 1:40am
Well, when you underclock either GPU (x700 _or_ 6600) they're probably going to use about the same power. But if you run them at stock speeds (or overclocked), they're both obviously going to use more power--the X700 more than the 6600. But who's going to be playing graphics intensive games on their battery?
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post #125 of 155
7/15/05 at 1:43am
bored students?
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post #126 of 155
7/15/05 at 2:10am
me.
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post #127 of 155
7/15/05 at 6:54pm
I've done it too.
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post #128 of 155
7/15/05 at 7:27pm
Just use ATI Tool. Customize your 2D and 3D clocks to your heart's content.
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post #129 of 155
7/15/05 at 7:51pm
My friend fried his video with that tool. I'd be very careful with that.
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post #130 of 155
7/16/05 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by Shadowmage
Just use ATI Tool. Customize your 2D and 3D clocks to your heart's content.
That only works as good as the heatsink on it and as long as they don't undervoltage the GPU as well. If they do, useless..
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post #131 of 155
7/16/05 at 1:06am
I wonder if they're going to start putting some temperature sensors on the video card? If ATI did it, they'd make me even happier. But yeah... overclocking always has the potential to be bad. Simply overclocking won't fry it, though... irresponsible and excessive overclocking will, though.
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post #132 of 155
7/16/05 at 3:13am
Hey
Tell me if this analogy applies......
The z70v and z70a get pretty much the same battery life. Once has the x600 and the other has a crappy integrated chip. Does this not mean the x700 vs the x600 will have the same battery life? My hunch is the x700 will have the same exact heatsink as the x600 does on the z70v. I doubt any higher temps will be achieved. I think the logic that applies to the power drawn by the x600 vs the x850 is different. They are not changing the form factor. I have not looked at the power consumption of the x700 vs the x600, maybee i should have, but i going with a good hunch here. I dont think there will be a noticeable difference in battery life regular use or gaming. The heatsink they are using now is standardized for the z70v. They will not make it any better then it is now for that model there is just no room.
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post #133 of 155
7/19/05 at 4:58am
back to the vga<->dvi connector. For those who want to know more-> http://www.techlore.com/article/10061/

Anyway, dvi was a big deciding factor for me since i will be using a lot of external monitors/tv. And using a vga->dvi connector will degrade quality. Though i don't know if it will be visible to the human eye, but definitely on HDTV.
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post #134 of 155
7/19/05 at 4:44pm
I really don't see myself hooking up my laptop to a hdtv very often (or ever).
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post #135 of 155
7/19/05 at 5:08pm
It would have more utility if the lappy had an ATSC tuner or upconverting DVD or even better, an HD (or Blu-Ray) DVD. Still, better quality video output is always welcome. Too bad it won't be offered in the initial issue.
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post #136 of 155
7/19/05 at 5:34pm
To respond to g2p, doesn't the x700 use more power than the x600? The integrated chip doesn't use nearly as much as the x600, but then the jump from the x600 to the x700--powerwise--probably isn't very big. BUt I still believe it uses a few watts more, but probably not enough to make the battery life drop more than a few minutes.

And an ATSC tuner? Usually only Media Center laptops have any kind, and I doubt there are even any commercially available Bluray laptop drives available. You have to remember, not only are these drives severely rare, but it'll be a few years before they even become mainstream.
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post #137 of 155
7/19/05 at 6:17pm
You're dreaming if your thinking about blu ray in a laptop now
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post #138 of 155
7/19/05 at 6:52pm
Hey 'i actually have no clue as to what the juice difference between the x600/x700 is. I am very familiar witht he inside construction of the z70v. An increase in temperature would jeopardise the internal components there. They are not changing the construction. Given that the temp will have to remain the same under the cooler.
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post #139 of 155
7/19/05 at 8:11pm
That does not make sense. If the container holds an object that requires more energy, then it would produce more heat. The container remains the same size and dimension, therefore, it would enclosed more heat. To get rid of the heat, the container must change in size, provide more vents, or the fan must run faster (& thus louder) to get rid of the heat.

I would bet anything that the Asus z70v refresh would produce more noticeable heat and louder fan.
I have the Gateway m680 with the X700 ATI graphic card and it does get pretty warm after playing games for greater than 30 minutes. The air that the fan blow out is pretty warm/hot.
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post #140 of 155
7/19/05 at 9:17pm
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Originally Posted by TaterSalad77
You're dreaming if your thinking about blu ray in a laptop now
Now, where did I ever say such a thing??
I was simply alluding to possible, and ultimate, eventual uses for DVI in a notebook which would give it more usefulness. In time, all these (and more) will come to be. I think pretty much everyone who knows what these things are also knows which aren't currently available in notebooks (but some are close).
Personally, I don't see why ATSC tuners aren't readily available unless manufacturers don't feel that there's a large enough demand yet. If you're going to have a high resolution screen and DVI (or component) outputs then why not provide the ability to display high res TV either on the notebook or on an external display utilizing an internal tuner? A combo NTSC/ATSC would be best for the next several years (at least for those living within a reasonable distance from transmitters).
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