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post #21 of 155
7/9/05 at 5:35am
Oh I see, thanks for that.

Now about my other question, is there such a thing as an adapter that can go from the Z70V to a normal television's A/V (red/white/yellow holes) port?
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post #22 of 155
7/9/05 at 6:11am
There should be a VGA to S-video converter and if not then you need a VGA to DVI to S-Video
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post #23 of 155
7/9/05 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by AndyMon
Would it be possible to add the DVI when it becomes available if one were to purchase one of the early models??
I highly doubt it. I don't think they lack the components, they probably just didn't have enough time to implement/test it.

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Originally Posted by Djembe_Rob
there are VGA to DVI converters out there, if you need to connect to a high definition monitor or television.
There are only VGA to DVI-I or DVI-A adapters, no VGA to DVI-D that I know of. Even if there is one, the quality has been degraded to a degree (not necessary noticeable by human eyes though) when converting to analog signal. If you have large (probably anything higher than 1280x1024) external LCDs that you need to use 24/7 with this laptop, it would probably be best to wait for the DVI version.

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Originally Posted by Artek
There should be a VGA to S-video converter and if not then you need a VGA to DVI to S-Video
You can always (and probably better) get a USB device that has S-video out instead.
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post #24 of 155
7/9/05 at 1:48pm
Are there currently any notebooks available (or planned) that incorporate ATSC tuners? It would be nice to get over the air Hi Def signals to display on the Hi Res screens (or on an external HD display via DVI or even component outputs). It seems that only NTSC tuners are available.
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post #25 of 155
7/9/05 at 2:31pm
I was very impressed with the 3dmark 05 scores. I was also surprised to how high they were, being that asus is known for underclocking things to make it cool enough.

About the VGA, it wouldn't really bother me much. I've only plugged my notebook into an external monitor ONCE (and that was just to see how cool it was[n't]). I wonder why they couldn't do DVI though. Purhaps they didn't have all the hardware yet... I am glad about one thing... im glad they didn't delay the whole notebook just because of the DVI deal...
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post #26 of 155
7/9/05 at 2:37pm
Thread Starter 
Yo llama, i noticed you got your lappy in 5 days. What kind of shipping did you use?
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post #27 of 155
7/9/05 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by BeanTownMH
Yo llama, i noticed you got your lappy in 5 days. What kind of shipping did you use?
It was from NC to FL, and I used standard 3-5 day shipping.
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post #28 of 155
7/9/05 at 3:00pm
Man I am so excited about this refresh, I can't wait to order right when it comes out. I just ordered a bytecc external enclosure and a seagate 160gb hdd for back up storage for the lappy. Man this is just too cool, I can't wait!!!!
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post #29 of 155
7/10/05 at 1:37am
So wait, the Refresh doesn't come with an S-Video out? That's kind of weird... that seems pretty common on most laptops nowadays. Please tell me I missed something! According to ISTNC's description, it does... :x

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I just missed something.
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post #30 of 155
7/10/05 at 2:20am
So is there any word on the new battery life/changed dimensions?
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post #31 of 155
7/10/05 at 5:32am
Is everyone still getting the refresh early, despite not having DVI-out? I'm contemplating this right now
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post #32 of 155
7/10/05 at 5:37am
I'm in the process of returning my Z71V... the sparkles have begun to give me pure eyesore.... I'll switch over to the desktop often just so I don't have to look at this screen! >.< I'm still planning on getting the Z70V Refresh. You'll have to ask yourself, though... how many times have you NEEDED to use DVI-out? I've never even _wanted_ to...

Plus, when you can get an easy-to-use converter (which maybe Asus should include since its not coming with a DVI port) and do the same thing, who cares?
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post #33 of 155
7/10/05 at 12:47pm
I am quite certain that Asus won't include such "easy-to-use convertor". I have not seen one anywhere even for desktop. Basically, it would have to take an analog video signal and convert it to digital (and faster than it can receive to keep the signal), which is... pointless, and perhaps impossible. If you have an external LCD that has only the DVI-D connector available, then you definitely will want to wait or find another laptop with DVI port. Most of the external LCDs nowadays contain one DVI-D and one analog port.
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post #34 of 155
7/10/05 at 1:33pm
Well, in all honesty, I have the Z71V Refresh right now, which doesn't have DVI. I think Asus is making a mistake in releasing the DVI version past September, because they're going to lose a few of their college student sales. Either way, its obvious why they have to delay... they have to redesign the case! Its too bad they didn't get a jump on it...

Anyways, a converter isn't a big deal. And I was under the impression that the converter would basically make it act like a digital signal at the loss of quality, but apparently that's not accurate. Again, I've had one on my desktop for 2.5 years, and I've never used it, so I guess that says a lot about as to whether or not I'll ever make use.
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post #35 of 155
7/10/05 at 2:27pm
A VGA to DVI converter doesn't look to be cheap:
Example 1
Example 2
It's definitely not a simple adapter, those things need power to convert from analog to digital.

Most DVI ports are DVI-I i think, meaning it can output BOTH digital and analog signals using different pins. That's why DVI-to-VGA converters are cheap, cuz it doesn't have to convert the signal, it just uses the different pins so it's just an adapter.

A DVI-D port which only transmit a digital signal, also requires some pretty expensive converters to make it VGA. Example 1, example 2.
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post #36 of 155
7/10/05 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by AndyMon
Are there currently any notebooks available (or planned) that incorporate ATSC tuners? It would be nice to get over the air Hi Def signals to display on the Hi Res screens (or on an external HD display via DVI or even component outputs). It seems that only NTSC tuners are available.
That seems to be the problem with early adopting. The place with the most widespread adoptation of HD equipment and ever increasing amount of content may get burned a little by the rest of the world going with the different standard. Several notebooks are already available with PAL+DVB-C/T tuners, but an European (for example) getting one of those will be less likely to utilize it as the terrestial digital network is less likely to be fully developed and HD content scarce.
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post #37 of 155
7/10/05 at 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by Redmumba
I'm in the process of returning my Z71V... the sparkles have begun to give me pure eyesore.... I'll switch over to the desktop often just so I don't have to look at this screen! >.< I'm still planning on getting the Z70V Refresh. You'll have to ask yourself, though... how many times have you NEEDED to use DVI-out? I've never even _wanted_ to...

Plus, when you can get an easy-to-use converter (which maybe Asus should include since its not coming with a DVI port) and do the same thing, who cares?
To be honest, if you can't stand 15.4" WSXGA+ resolution, no matter what laptop you go with that uses WSXGA+ and it is 15.4" or smaller, you will have the same problem.
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post #38 of 155
7/11/05 at 2:28pm
I'm actually a little disappointed with the no DVI thing. But there is no better laptop for me and I can't wait till Sept.
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post #39 of 155
7/11/05 at 2:36pm
Here is an explaination for DVI:

"DVI is better than VGA for TFTs because they are digital and VGA is analog. A TFT displayes its picture digitally, pixel per pixel. Via DVI the panel gets data for each pixel, so the picture generated in the graphics card will match exact with the pixels on the panel itself.

Not so with VGA. First, the picture is generated digitally in the graphics card. Then it's converted to analog. In the TFT they will be converted again to digital (=> senseless twice conversion => quality loss), using the phase and the clock, and it'll be calculated which pixel should display what color. As the phase and clock can't be adjusted so precisely that a pixel of a picture generated by the graphics card will be displayed by the appropriate pixel on the panel. Means that the picture will be interpolated a little bit, which again means quality loss.

The electron cannons of the CRT need analog signals, that's why VGA is the best for CRTs and DVI would make no sense here."
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post #40 of 155
7/11/05 at 5:35pm
Still contemplating whether or not I should wait till September. I really don't mind, but I don't want to wait either
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