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Crucial difference?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

I'm new to the forum (been lurking for a while), and am starting to convert from Wintel to Mac for my home computers (or, it appears, Mactel eventually). My first step in this transition is a new notebook for my son who is starting college this fall, and as a result I just today ordered a new 15" PB (yes, I was waiting for the infamous July 7 announcement before I ordered).

I was looking on the Crucial web site at 1GB SODIMM prices to upgrade the RAM when it arrives, and discovered something interesting. If I simply look up a standard 1GB PC2700 200-pin SODIMM the part shown is CT12864X335 with a price of "X" (I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post prices here). If I go back and use the Memory Advisor(tm) and put in the appropriate Apple PB information, it leads me to a different part number - CT434058 - with a price of 1.4*"X". The specs on the two parts look exactly the same, i.e., 200-pin SODIMM, DDR PC2700, 128Mbx64, Unbuffered, Non-ECC, 2.5V, CL2.5. Why is the "Apple" part 40% more expensive? I realize that the latter part is supposed to be guaranteed to work with my machine, but is there really any difference between the two?

Just curious.

Allen
post #2 of 17
there shouldn't be, if the specs are identical, just a different part #, you should be fine. They just charge more because it is an "apple part" so you pay a premium. They count on people without any knowledge of computers to buy what is "guaranteed". When I bought my ram for my Dell desktop from Kingston, the guaranteed model was about 1.4 * X for a good similar module with a different P/N. You might also want to check out newegg.com memory section, prices might better fit your budget
post #3 of 17
u read the RAM sticky in this section? it's been known that crucial memory is often more expensive when using the configurator. i imagine the extra cost has something to do w/ their guarantee that it'll work in your system. -i.e.-if something does go wrong the extra cost covers shipping and such for returns.

i agree w/ abf re: looking around. check this out. pay attention in particular to the reviews re: powerbooks.
post #4 of 17
Crucial sells 1GB sticks for a horribly expensive price. Check New Egg and you can get them for half the crucial price if not less.
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. Yes, I had read the sticky note, though I didn't remember it specifically mentioning this issue. I had also looked at the Kingmax memory at newegg.com. I usually check out Crucial since their prices for normal memory aren't all that bad - the 1 GB stick in question is about $30 more than the Kingmax, but their "Apple compatible" is $80 more.

Anyway, good to hear my suspicions were confirmed. I'll probably give the Kingmax a try and post my experience later.

Allen
post #6 of 17
Yeah, I just bought the cheapest ram at Newegg, which was Kingmax, and so far it has worked great. No problems whatsoever.
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ordered the Kingmax memory from Newegg - I'll report back when I get the PB and try it out.

Thanks again.

Allen
post #8 of 17
I got the Kingmax from New Egg too and it's worked great.
post #9 of 17
ehh...i am not a big kingmax fan, i really am not.

Right now the main merchandise that my family business is spinning on ebay is laptop ram. I sell many brands, although mostly IBM, Kingston, Micron, and Infineon. To be honest, they are all fantastic brands and all, and should last forever, but I would not use them in my systems. (Well..except my T23 uses IBM Samsung modules). My desktop uses Kingston, so does my Uniwill 258kao. I don't know what my bro's Z71 have...never took a peak. But I guess its just my thing. When it comes to ram i only buy Kingston, Crucial, and Corsair for personal use.
post #10 of 17
i got my generic stick @ buy.com thru dealram and it has worked beautifully w/ my iBook. passed all the hardware tests and i can't remember the last time i had a lockup (but i can on my windows machine )
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Just to close out this thread topic, I recieved the PB G4 15" yesterday, as well as the Kingmax SODIMM's (2 x 1GB) from Newegg. After charging up the PB and letting it run until the battery was out (to calibrate it), we took the battery out and installed the memory. Everything looks fine - it recognized the memory and no lock-ups so far. It was not obvious to me at first how the memory modules were stacked on top of each other, or how the clips worked since there was only one module in there originally. The instructions in the manual were not as good as they could have been - a few closeup pictures would have helped. Any, looks like there are no problems so far.

There was one wierd thing that did happen, though. After we installed the memory and booted up, the system clock was reset to Jan 1, 1969 and a warning came up to inform us that it had changed. Does this sound like a normal occurance, or something I should worry about? I can't imagine changing the memory should affect the clock settings. Perhaps the discharged battery? Anyway, thought I'd ask about that. BTW, I did use an antistatic mat that was grounded and made sure I grounded myself before touching anything inside (I've put together several home-brewed Wintel PC's in my day, so I know about ESD precautions).

Allen
post #12 of 17
When that happens it means the PMU was reset...most likely because you took the battery out. When the battery dies the computer goes to sleep...taking the battery out for more than a few minutes while sleeping will cause the reserve battery to die which will make it necessary to reboot and can cause strange problems. It should be fine from now on, however.
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 
Kakaze - thanks for the explanation. I guess it was just the unusual order in which I did things that caused it to happen, since I replaced the memory in the middle of calibrating the battery, and removed the battery to do so while it was drained. It does appear to be working all day today without issue.

Allen
post #14 of 17
Since the PMU was reset you might want to calibrate the battery again.
post #15 of 17
me <---- jealous
2GB of RAM
<single tear forming at the corner of my eye>
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by triadone
me <---- jealous
2GB of RAM
<single tear forming at the corner of my eye>
If it's any consolation:
me <----- broke!!

This was my son's high school graduation present, which he will be taking to college this fall. Anyway, after spending $2k+ on a 15" PB, what the he!! - might as well spend another $200 and trick it out with RAM now and be done with it. Besides, my other son wanted the 512MB SODIMM that came with it to upgrade his Gateway. Am I a great Dad, or what? Who says you can't buy love!!!

Allen
post #17 of 17
ah yes, just like when my mom splurged and picked me up an HP 486sx 33Mhz system for college. hopefully he'll get the mileage out of his as i got out of mine.
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