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post #861 of 1260
12/8/05 at 6:55am
Haha, mine has been paid for since July!
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post #862 of 1260
12/8/05 at 11:13am
I'm getting really worried. Every site that has a listed configuration for X2 4800 is indicating that there will be at least a $400 premium over the 9880.

That means this thing will easily be over $4k while the the (toped out) 9880 will hover around $3,600-$3,700.
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post #863 of 1260
12/8/05 at 11:48am
When the 9880 and 9890 first came out it was around $4300 so it is not surprising, or shouldnt be anyway.
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post #864 of 1260
12/8/05 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Rotorhead
When the 9880 and 9890 first came out it was around $4300 so it is not surprising, or shouldnt be anyway.
It's surprising because it's the exact same laptop except a different motherboard/processor- there really shouldn't be a premium on that chassis.

Well, I just checked and the 4800+ is over $300 more than the 3.8 p4 on pricewatch so i guess it's justified.
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post #865 of 1260
12/8/05 at 3:30pm
The FX57 I have my eyes on has a $400 street price over a 3.8 P4. Ugh. $225 over everyone's favorite x2 4800.
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post #866 of 1260
12/10/05 at 9:05am
Aaargh... the wait is so long...
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post #867 of 1260
12/10/05 at 3:09pm
I wish I knew what the Sager techs were doing. Is the notebook really compatible with the hardware they're trying to put in it?

At least I can play with my G5 when it comes in.
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post #868 of 1260
12/10/05 at 7:49pm
That's an odd question chilled. It's a brand new motherboard they've designed. The chipset is existing as is the hardware they've put in. Motherboard design isn't a simple process, there are always problems to be worked out.
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post #869 of 1260
12/10/05 at 8:50pm
I would have to say patience is a virtue in this case. Wouldn't you rather have a lappy that works right out of the box? Or would you rather RMA it a month down the road because of a hardware issue?

Is it my imagination or are 5720 owners having lots of problems?
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post #870 of 1260
12/11/05 at 2:55am
So . . . now that is officially out of early december and into mid december, any idea on when we will be able to pre-order, Luke?
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post #871 of 1260
12/11/05 at 6:50pm
Could this be the reason for the long delay? You can't release the world's most powerful notebook if it can't handle the fastest chip.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27644

"AMD FX-60s found In the wild

Dual core goodness

By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 13 november 2005, 06:59
"NEW ATHLONS ARE imminent. AMD has been sending out the FX-60 chips, dual cores that clock at 2.6GHz.

They are in the hands of at least one INQ friendly box slinger now, so it is only a short period of time before they are in the hands of users.

You give up about 200MHz over a single core, but that small a loss is well worth the added second core.

If AMD follows form, it will be make a slight power increase over the single core, 110w vs 95, and the dual 2.6's will be out early next year in non-FX guise at a 95W power level.

Either way, this will be the gamer chip of choice for some time to come."

Price? $1,238
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post #872 of 1260
12/11/05 at 9:00pm
No that's not the reason, the reason is the compatibility between the 7800 and the Via chipset.

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post #873 of 1260
12/11/05 at 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by WFO
Could this be the reason for the long delay?
I wonder if the 9750 can take that chip? Geez, it makes the 4800+ seem old already!
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post #874 of 1260
12/12/05 at 1:09am
Until a single game ships that supports dual threads, dual core procs are just hype. The FX-57 at 2.8ghz is much faster than the x2 4800, and I fully expect it will be faster than the FX-60's 2.6ghz in every game on the market.
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post #875 of 1260
12/12/05 at 1:19am
My concern is will my existing software work with this new dual core processor? If it doen't, major bummer! And major headache!
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post #876 of 1260
12/12/05 at 1:44am
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Originally Posted by thefrawg
Until a single game ships that supports dual threads, dual core procs are just hype. The FX-57 at 2.8ghz is much faster than the x2 4800, and I fully expect it will be faster than the FX-60's 2.6ghz in every game on the market.

I guess this would be true if you booted your computer and managed to have nothing but a single process running at a time. Multi core processing is the future.
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post #877 of 1260
12/12/05 at 2:52am


Ok Frawg, unless of course you are running multiple apps, or programs that take advantage of the dualcores . . . then they are more than just hype
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post #878 of 1260
12/12/05 at 12:09pm
It's hard to find benchmarks comparing the FX-57 (2.8ghz) to the x2 4800(2.4ghz). I finally found one comparing the FX-55 (2.6ghz) to the 4800.

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx

I expect the difference will be appropriately smaller when the x2 FX-60 (2.6ghz) is compared to the FX-57.

The 2nd core running OS tasks just isn't enough. There aren't enough housekeeping chores around to make a 2nd core worthwhile. Perhaps Vista will take better advantage of it, but I think only truly multithreaded games will make the 2nd core worthwhile.
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post #879 of 1260
12/12/05 at 12:33pm
Um, so 3D modeling with ACAD that is multi-threaded is not worth getting a second core?? - Interesting
Maybe you should restate that as, there are not enough housekeeping chores FOR YOU to take make it worthwhile . . . some of us would/could take advantage of using the second core. Not everyone is looking at this rig for just gaming.
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post #880 of 1260
12/12/05 at 1:49pm
Problem is that you need to be computer savvy to use smp properly. You need to know how to set affinity to allow processes on different cpu's to allow for some amazing multitasking capabilities. For instance, you could run a vmware session independently from the rest of the system, effectively allowing you to run two OS' with virtually no performance hit.

There are some games that are smp enabled, but not many. That will change as the smp intel chips become more common. Sadly, amd does not move the industry like intel does even if it has better chips.

I run linux and often have 20 apps open in several virtual desktops so multicore chips would make a huge difference on my machine. The extra power in an FX chip is only going to give a few more fps in games. Maya, 3dsmax, combustion, autocad, etc. will all run much better on the X2 chip.

I agree, most everyone here assumes these power laptops are only for games.
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