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Dell replacement? IBM?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
The office i work at is looking into getting new computers, and since i am teh new IT guy, i need options. They have all Dell, and since i am always the one that has to deal with the shitty tech support i need otehr options. I was thinking Alienware first, but after contacting coporate sales they were just rude to me, so they are out, what about Gateway, im really considering IBM, becaues Big Blue has been around for ever.

We are looking to purhcase between 12-15 desktops and about 10 notebooks.

Any opinions?
post #2 of 13
Yeah, I'd get a bunch of Gateways if I were you.
post #3 of 13
I have heard that IBM and Gateway both have good, english-speaking tech support.
post #4 of 13
If cost is an issue, Dell has excellent bulk-order contracts--just ask any local schools. I wouldn't recommend going with speciality providers like Alienware, but rather go with someone who is already business oriented. IBM is an excellent choice, as is Dell. Gateway sounds a bit iffy; everytime I think of Gateways, I imagine the ones before the owner came back and revamped the company.

Anyways, back on task, IBM probably has the best support options. AccessIBM is a fantastic tool, and they'll bend over backwards to make sure businesses have working computers.
post #5 of 13
IBM's services are naturally catered towards businesses, as are their notebook/desktop line, so that's a good choice. And as far as I know, their support is still based in America.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
thanks guys for all your opinions, im going to go and price out some IBM's and see the difference.
post #7 of 13
Yeah, if Dell weren't an option, I'd go with IBM. I don't really like Gateways that much, but they're okay, but IBM just blows them out of the water.
post #8 of 13
what about toshiba? alot of places have local repair facilities....

i know this forum seems to hate them but their business class notesbooks are quite nice.... and dare i say hp/compaq there NC series are very highly rated (think it is NC series anyways, their business class if I am wrong is what I am referring to)
post #9 of 13
ibm's are a little more expensive, but they're built like tanks and should last a while with business use.
post #10 of 13
I think the Dell Lattitude line is pretty close to IBM. I've had both and the thing I like about Dell is that they aren't so proprietary. For example, you can't just buy a Thinkpad and upgrade the hard drive. It has to be one that their BIOS will recognize or you won't be able to use that particular hard drive.

They both have great port replicators, but give the nod to Dell for external LCD's.

Also give the nod to Dell for configurability. With IBM, you're pretty much stuck with what you can find unless you want to order direct - then you're going to play the waiting game. And the wait could be longer than you like.

I've never had to send a Dell back for support. We've had a bunch of Thinkpads over the years and recently the quality has started to slip. We got 4 of them last Fall and 3 of them had to go in for service or repair within a few weeks.

However, nobody, but nobody can beat IBM's service. They are very, very good. We've actually had door-to-door repairs done in 4 days.

Pricewise, I think you'll find the Dell's cheaper and with a little better support options and configurability. And Dell's are definitely ahead of the IBM's on keeping up with technology. IBM is very slow to change. They both claim an 18 month duty cycle before they are going to make any changes to the models they have.

Hope this helps with your decision. Incidentally, check out www.thinkpads.com and send an email to Bill Morrow for Thinkpads. He may be able to save you some money and provide a "no dead pixel" guarantee that even IBM won't give you. At least with Dell, you've got 21 days to return it "no questions asked".
post #11 of 13
I would definately recommend IBM laptops and desktops. We have always had IBM laptops but recently we switched from Compaq desktops to IBM desktops. I have to say that anytime I have ever had a problem with either I have had my parts next day and a tech on-site to do the repair if needed. I also recommend to stay away from IBM monitors though.
Good Luck
Scott
post #12 of 13
You can absolutely replace IBM hard drives, as well as keyboards, screens, optical drives in certain models and they're generally more expandable than a comparable Dell. Even the IBM proprietary software, like locking the hard drive to brace for impact, works with any hard drive, not just the one that comes with the system.

Waiting game? Perhaps, but most people wait longer with Dell when they order a custom system, which is always.

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post #13 of 13
i can't see any reason that not picking up IBM.
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