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post #21 of 35
7/26/05 at 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
Take a look at the Sager that uses the 6600. Someone gotten score close to 3k.

Like i said, paper spec yes they are very similar, but in actual usage it is hard to tell. And Asus might end up underclocking the x700, just like they've done with 6600, 9700 ATI, and other video card they've implemented. They've been known to do that over and over again.

Yes the Ferrari got nice benchmark and over 2800, the Acer 8100 series got 2300 with the exact same card. This is to show that taking the best of breed comparing against the lowest of breed is basically not a fair comparison.

If you compare the Acer 8100 vs Asus Z71v, they are around 2200ish - 2300ish vs 1800ish - 1900ish stocked. Not overclocking.

But if you compare the Acer 8100 vs Sager 3880, they are comparable in terms of speed on the x700 vs 6600 go.

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=92780

That is the benchmark from stocked Sager 3880 using Nvidia 6600 GO.

Just as an example above..

It is hard to tell exactly how x700 will perform on the Z70va. No one knows the stock speed on it yet and how much will it clock out to be.

Bench mark will varies on type of memory used and the clock on the GPU and memory.
but the point is the x700 and the go 6600 is basicully the same thing even though the x700 is faster its not really noticble to the human eye only to the benchmark sheet. We can go on how the ati wins this and nvidia wins this. You really cant even tell the gpu speed on games anymore becuase companies have optimzed for seprate grpahics cards giving them an extra lead. Thought taken yes the x700 is a superior card over the nvidia 6600 go but is it a killer differnce NO is it worth selling your notebook just to buy the Asus Z70va NO!
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post #22 of 35
7/26/05 at 5:41pm
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Originally Posted by Laptop&lt View Post
but the point is the x700 and the go 6600 is basicully the same thing even though the x700 is faster its not really noticble to the human eye only to the benchmark sheet. We can go on how the ati wins this and nvidia wins this. You really cant even tell the gpu speed on games anymore becuase companies have optimzed for seprate grpahics cards giving them an extra lead. Thought taken yes the x700 is a superior card over the nvidia 6600 go but is it a killer differnce NO is it worth selling your notebook just to buy the Asus Z70va NO!
That is exactly what I am getting at.

They are basically the same. Yes x700 will be faster on some machine and 6600 will be faster than other. But to compare the top vs the bottom of each and say the Asus Z70va will have a nice 35% increase margin isn't correct.

If that is the case, might as well compare Toshiba Tecra 6600 card and you'll get 50% increase hehehe
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post #23 of 35
7/26/05 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by smilepak
That is exactly what I am getting at.

They are basically the same. Yes x700 will be faster on some machine and 6600 will be faster than other. But to compare the top vs the bottom of each and say the Asus Z70va will have a nice 35% increase margin isn't correct.

If that is the case, might as well compare Toshiba Tecra 6600 card and you'll get 50% increase hehehe
lol
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post #24 of 35
7/27/05 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
Perhaps you define playable differently than I do, but there is definite choppiness at 1680x1050 high detail (no AA/AF) on the Z71v. There's still some at 1680x1050 LOW detail (though not very much, it's ugly that way anyways.)

It's certainly not one frame per second, but that doesn't make it playable. And no, the fact that I could still get 40 FPS+ on the stress test doesn't mean anything to me, either.

Perhaps there's something fundamentally wrong with my system, but since its 3dmark scores resemble those of other Z71v owners, I doubt that.

By the way, I haven't beat the shit out of my notebook. Thanks for suggesting it, though - after all, I'm clearly a goddamned idiot who's actually compressing giant files archives in the background.
It must just be personal preference then. Some people can't stand anything less than 60 fps and others don't notice. Don't be offended, I was just surprised that you called it unplayable. Perhaps you like VSYNC to be on or something?

At any rate, I can personally report that it plays all current games at high settings just fine for me.
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post #25 of 35
7/28/05 at 7:21pm
V Sync on and V sync off made little difference to me, playability-wise, although there was a lot more tearing with the latter. :-/

I tend to prefer 30 fps+, but I don't like min framerates below 15-20 FPS. At all. It simply gets too hard to aim, particularly since I'm not hugely good anyways. Besides that, I was simply seeing too many drops. I can mess around a bit on Half-Life 2 absolutely maxed, but I certainly wouldn't play on it if I was trying to get through the game.
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post #26 of 35
7/29/05 at 5:48am
Thanks smile, chuck, and others... redmum's 35% bullshit was starting to piss me off lol
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post #27 of 35
7/29/05 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by tetrismaster
Thanks smile, chuck, and others... redmum's 35% bullshit was starting to piss me off lol
Hehe merely uninformed.
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post #28 of 35
7/29/05 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by tetrismaster
Thanks smile, chuck, and others... redmum's 35% bullshit was starting to piss me off lol
LoL! How do you know we aren't 35% bullshitting as well? ahhaahha
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post #29 of 35
7/29/05 at 5:10pm
San Andreas runs well on 1280x800, all settings maxed out on 80.40 drivers OC 300/600, no choppiness at all
Kotor I/II also runs flawlessly
CS:Source- i get something like 53fps in the stress test with everything maxed out (1280x800)
Also tried Warhammer 40kawn of War - same settings as above - slight chopiness detected when many units are concentrated on screen
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post #30 of 35
7/29/05 at 5:59pm
Woah Glaive, your sig says that you have a Z71V rebranded but with a WXGA screen? Please elaborate? Was there an option for WSXGA or did it just come with the WXGA?
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post #31 of 35
9/13/05 at 8:28am
I know that here in Australia you can buy it with either a WXGA or WSXGA screen, as well as a 64mb or 128mb 6600.
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post #32 of 35
10/3/05 at 6:39pm
I got my Z71v a couple of weeks ago. I have a new baby in the house so haven't played too many games on it but WOW rocks on it at 1280x768. My desktop LCD is native 1280x768 so that is what I play on and WOW goes widescreen. I had an Area 51 with the go5600 and I think my new rig does a lot better gaming than the P4 2.8 in the Alienware. I haven't done any performance testing yet but I will post when I do.

Z71V
2.0/533
Go 6600 128
2gb PC4200
60gb 5400, want to go 7k soon.
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post #33 of 35
10/4/05 at 12:40am
I'd hope that thing games better than a 2.8GHz P4 and a Go5600. Glad you're pretty happy with it!
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post #34 of 35
2/27/06 at 4:43pm
Just bought my Asus Z71v. I love this laptop!! Put in a Pentium M 760, an 80g SATA Hdd and 2 giggs of DDR2 533 ram, as well as an internal a/b/g wireless. Total cost was under 1700 for a diy kit (including windows xp pro) and this puppy runs WoW better than my athlon 2800+ desktop.

Very happy with this computer. Took me a while to find the ram slot under the keyboard tho.
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post #35 of 35
4/21/06 at 7:14am
I've been playing CoD2 single player on my z71v and things are fine for the most part on medium to high settings at 800x600 or so, but I've noticed an annoying problem where the game freezes (often in closed combat) and I end up having to press escape to get to menu (which responds after about 5 seconds whiel the sound hangs) then get back to the game. I'm thinking this is just a graphics driver issue, but then again i did OC it some what.
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