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Y.A.D.I.N - Yet Another Dell Inspiron 9300 Review

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UPDATED : August 3, 2005.

DATE : July 24, 2005.

Well, let me start by saying that I was *this* close to buying the Hypersonic Aviator AX7. A sweet machine with the AMD64 chip. BUT, DELL won me over with their really MASSIVE discounts and offers that I couldn't refuse and also I wasn't getting the GPU I wanted on the AMD64.

So, the wait has begun. Agonizing pain during night time, antisipation of changes during the day time. What else can I say, I am just another technology drooler.

For starters I will give a brief of what I have ordered and why I went for the DELL...

The Machine

DELL Inspiron 9300 Configuration :

Intel Pentium M 760 (2 GHz / 2 MB Cache / 533 MHz FSB)
17" UltraSharp Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife (1900 x 1200 MAX)
256 MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz 1 SODIMM (Hold it, I know your concern...)
256 MB NVidia GeForce Go 6800
60 GB 7200rpm Hard Drive
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with SP2
Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
8x CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer write capability
Intel PRO 2200 and Dell 350 Bluetooth Internal Wireless Cards
9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery (80 WHr)
3Yr Ltd Warranty, At-Home Service, and Tech Support plus Nights & Weekends
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Backup CD
Targus Messenger Carrying Case

Now about the price. The total price including taxes, S&H BEFORE discount is $3254.21 and the price after discount is $2018.41 (including taxes, S&H). Now do you see the first reason I went with the DELL.

The second reason is the 256 MB video card. Now, I couldn't find it anywhere else for the AMD at all, and I am a huge fan of AMD. If there was a 256MB card for the AMD laptop and it was more than this machine, I would still have gone with that.

Now, the third reason is I didn't get the WUXGA for the AMD, and the forth is AMD has only 400 MHz DDR for the memory (max speed). That is pretty much useless considering the AMD64 chip has a wopping 1600MHz as the FSB for the processor, double than any of the pentiums.

Its not all nice always. The downside, in the Hypersonic Aviator AX7 (I didn't mention just AMD, becuase this feature I found only in the aviator), I could get a 100 GB SATA 7200rpm w/NCQ for an additional $150 from the 60 GB 7200rpm. And that is so pathetic that DELL doesn't offer any of the SATA hard drives.

Now, why did I just choose 256 MB for the RAM?? Well, I got a 1GB RAM for $110/- shipped and so I will have 1.2GB of RAM for less.

And, DELL keeps changing their minds every friday. I had preconfigured the inspiron 9300 with an wireless a/b/g + bluetooth and they removed that configuration as an option. Man, that sucks. Anway, it doesn't matter now. The majestic is on its way.

Now about the process. I will give my experience as I go through each stage. Now it is just in production stage (at least thats what it says.).

Sales & Ordering

I ordered this machine on the 23rd, i.e., yesterday. And it said an estimated shipping date is on or before August 1st.

UPDATE 07/28/2005

Today, it said the laptop has shipped. That is a fast build process from 23rd to 27th, considering two days of holidays in between. So a total of 4 days of build and testing.

Estimated arrival on 1st August, which is a Monday. Can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

Well, lets wait and see whats it store.

UPDATE 08/03/2005

WHOAAAAAAAAAAA.....
I received my laptop yesterday, i.e., 2nd. The UPS got me real mad with their delays. Actually, the delay was 80% mine. The UPS guy was here on friday but I was out of town. Man the delays. Anyway, finally he came on tuesday and gave it. I was thanking the Lord and kissing the floor. (Metaphorically of course).. .

Build

The whole packaging was pretty good and sturdy. I felt safe when I saw the package that nothing would have gone wrong while shipping. Pretty well done DELL.

Once the box was opened, my first impression was "GOOD GOD.. THIS IS HUGE..". Well, that is because my old laptop is a Gateway Solo 9550 15.4" screen. The height is comparably the same but it is more wider (what else would you expect with a 17") and the thickness is also comparable to the old laptop. (Sorry guys, I don't have anything else to compare it to). The build is pretty solid and sleek. I give it a 8/10. I will explain why.

Everything is good.. BUT...

The keyboard could have been improved a lot more as there is a lot of space on the left and right side of the keyboard. On the outer shell, the INSPIRON letters seem like a sticker that could peel off any minute. Also, the touchpad is a little towards the left below the keyboard. This is not much of a problem as much as its a getting used to thing.

All this is fine, as its a process of getting used to. Yet my biggest issue with this machine is there is no PS/2 port at all. I like to use an external keyboard when gaming but this one doesn't have any.

Pros : 6 USB 2.0 ports (2 on left side and 4 on the back), DVI port, Battery life (9-Cell battery - an estimated 4 hours, low work).
Cons : No PS/2 port and no inbuilt mike.

As I fired it up, I was getting more and more excited. Started it up and the setup was a breeze. For those non-geeky people, there are a lot of JUNK DELL software in there that you can get rid of using the Add/Remove programs. Thats the simpler way of-course. Hey, wait a minute. I got the 1Gig RAM that I didn't put it in... Ok.. lets do that then. BUT, I have to go through the full setup process before I shutdown. So, I went through it and it took around 5 min to complete everything and set it up fully and shutdown.

Now the memory. I got the Transcend 1GB 533 MHz DDRII RAM from newegg.com and that just fit in beautifully. No hassles. And the locations are all marked (M - Memory, B - Battery, H - Hard disk, etc...), so no problems tracing it also.

I fired it up again and this time the machine booted up real fast. The difference - 256 MB V/s 1.25 GB of RAM.

Oh... Again I forgot something, the A/C adapter wire. So, all this while I was working off of the battery. I ran around an hour and it showed 2 1/2 hours remaining in the battery life. Good DELL, they charge the battery FULLY before they ship it. Nice. All this while I was wondering why the screen was so dim. After the A/C it became real bright. Lets move on to the peripherals.

SCREEN

As I was looking at the bright screen I noticed somebody... Oh thats me. Well, a glossy screen and that too a beautiful one. As it blacked out though, there was a lot of light at the bottom. Then I realized thats what they call light leakage. Well DELL you get 9/10 for the screen cause of that. The light leakage doesnt bother as long as you are not staring at a black screen for five minutes (which I doubt is highly, really highly unlikely).

I noticed that the fonts were not looking that good. Messed around and found that DELL has increased the DPI to 120% (Display Properties -> Settings -> Advanced...) AND the cleartype was off. As I changed the two, the beauty came alive.

The fonts are a little smaller to see (if you are sitting 2 feet away), But then who is. I changed the screen resolution to a lower one and it didnt look good. So, if you want to sit away and play then get an external monitor (I got the 2005FPW from DELL for 400 bucks.. sweeeeeet).

Play
I fired up half-life 2 with all settings high and the machine slowed down to 20 FPS. But just reduced the resolution to one (1680x1050) and it breezed. That is sweet... And you know what the machine is adicting, before I knew I was spending 2 hours playing.

Lets continue when I finish with some benchmarking tests and then onto reinstallation and optimizations...

(To Be Continued ...)

-AR
post #2 of 16
Thread Starter 
People, do post any kind of specific benchmark tests or reviews you want me to do when the machine arrives.

-AR
post #3 of 16
I think this board knows the relative benchmark range for this notebook after all the reviews, but...

3DMark05, PCMark05, and any of the predecessors.

Mainly, I am looking for pics, and lots of 'em
I would like to see what the WUXGA looks like when looking at the desktop, just to see how small the icons look in relation to the screen size. Also anything else you can think of to keep a soon-to-be 9300 buyer content until he orders.

Thanks.

EDIT: To add, I am glad to see that the ship date is so close, especially when compared to when Dells systems premier. Definately looking forward to only having to a week, compared to the "botique" companies that take nearly a month.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmelzer2004
I think this board knows the relative benchmark range for this notebook after all the reviews, but...

3DMark05, PCMark05, and any of the predecessors.

Mainly, I am looking for pics, and lots of 'em
I would like to see what the WUXGA looks like when looking at the desktop, just to see how small the icons look in relation to the screen size. Also anything else you can think of to keep a soon-to-be 9300 buyer content until he orders.

Thanks.

EDIT: To add, I am glad to see that the ship date is so close, especially when compared to when Dells systems premier. Definately looking forward to only having to a week, compared to the "botique" companies that take nearly a month.
I am relieved about the 1 week system from Dell. Man the wait is agonizing.

-AR
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Other than the 3DMarks and PCMarks, I was looking to doing other tests such as memory test, hard drive tests and all. If anybody could point me to the right place that'd be great.

Oh, BTW I ordered the Transcend 1GB 533MHz FSB DDR2 SODIMM RAM form newegg.com for $107/- and its on its way too.

-AR
post #6 of 16
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Well, the laptop was actually attempted delivery last friday, 29th. But unfortunately, I was out of town and the neighbors were also out of town. (Damn..)... Now I will be seeing the machine only tomorrow, 2nd aug.

Lets see whats in store.

BTW, people leave some comments (good or bad)... Good and I will appreciate, BAD and I will ... hehehe...

-AR
post #7 of 16
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Updated the review guys. Let me know what you think.
post #8 of 16
Cool. Why'd you lower the res in Half-Life 2 to WSXGA+, though? HL2 is supposed to be one of those games that runs with very high framerates @ 1920x1200. Maybe you need to turn AA off, because it might not be needed @ such a high res?

Good review, btw
post #9 of 16
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Yeah. I thought of that. Probably I will give that a try. Thnx buddy.

-AR
post #10 of 16
Yw I hope that works for you.
post #11 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeuwolfAgate
AMD has only 400 MHz DDR for the memory (max speed). That is pretty much useless considering the AMD64 chip has a wopping 1600MHz as the FSB for the processor, double than any of the pentiums.
That isn't entirely correct. To begin with, 400 Mhz DDR is actually 200 Mhz. The 800 Mhz FSB speed you see on the P4's, is really just clever marketing becaues the P4's use a quad pumped FSB that gives 200 Mhz x 4 = 800 Mhz. The A64 doesn't technically have a FSB anymore as the memory controller is on die, but for the sake of argument we'll say they do. Now my understanding of the A64 isn't as solid as I'd like so bear with me if there are some inconsistesies. With the A64 they are using 4 pipelines to the CPU and then because the memory controller is onboard the data flows even faster (the A64 hypertransport). This gives you the so called 1600 Mhz *FSB*. It's all very confusing but so long as you're using PC3200 Ram (DDR 400 Mhz OR 200 Mhz ram) you'll be getting the full spec of the processor. I hope this clears things up a bit.

Oh, and don't get me wrong, I still think you chose a kick ass laptop, I'm currently looking at the same model.
post #12 of 16
I think Spritzup is right in that the Athlon 64's 1600MHz HyperTransport "FSB" thing is strange, and it's not like DDR 3200 is only making use of 25% of the FSB bandwitdh. I think it DOES have something to do with the on-die memory controller. I remember reading the explanation once in some Tom's Hardware or probably an Anandtech review.
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I keep meaning to read up more on the A64's, but I can't really afford one right now, so I figure why should I tease myself.
post #14 of 16
Wow, so envy u guys ......9300 and XPS Gen 2 is not in the market of my country, Malaysia. My current notebook can't go for those high end game anymore, like battle field 2 or the NFS Most Wanted as my GPU only supported Vertex Shader 1.1 and Pixel Shader 1.4 and also DirectX 8.1 only....
post #15 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritzup
I keep meaning to read up more on the A64's, but I can't really afford one right now, so I figure why should I tease myself.
Well, basically, Athlon 64's are awesome chips for gaming like the Pentium M is. They are dominating over the P4's, while the Pentium M's come close to the Athlon 64's, iirc. However, the Athlon 64's have better performance across the board on lots of different types of apps, unlike the Pentium M, but the A64's are still weak in comparison to the P4's in apps like media encoding and stuff.

One other big point: the Athlon 64's run cooler than the P4's by a substantial margin. Even the dual-core Athlon 64's run cooler than a single core P4, lol! Which reminds me: in terms of dual-core, Athlon 64's significantly outperform the P4 in just about everything, and can finally match or beat the P4 in those media encoding situations I was talking about. However, the Athlon 64 dual cores are quite a bit more expensive than the P4 dual cores (especially at the low-end). Which brings me back to one of the main differences between the A64 and P4: for normal single core chips, the Athlon 64 is still cheaper in comparison to the competing P4, which carries on the good ol' AMD tradition (if you ignore their dual-cores being so expensive)

[Added later]
*Whew* almost lost that last post "up there" as it was submitting when I clicked a bookmark intead of another tab in FireFox. oops

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeair
Wow, so envy u guys ......9300 and XPS Gen 2 is not in the market of my country, Malaysia. My current notebook can't go for those high end game anymore, like battle field 2 or the NFS Most Wanted as my GPU only supported Vertex Shader 1.1 and Pixel Shader 1.4 and also DirectX 8.1 only....
Yeah, I know how you feel. This will be my first laptop, and my third PC ever, and it will be the first time I have DX8 graphics (not to mention DX9) and CPU and GPU performance in games that is in the top-tier. And how could I forget? We Canadians don't get the insane coupon/discount deals that the Dell US customers get. But you're right; I should be thankful that I can buy the i9300 at all (and it's STILL way cheaper than buying a Toshiba Qosmio from Future Shop or Best Buy for $3k CDN, lol; ewww, Qosmio).
post #16 of 16
when or where i can get such powerfull laptop in my country....
sweat sweat
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