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post #1 of 19
7/26/05 at 11:08pm
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Does anyone know anything about Internet Explorer 7, like when it will be released? Also, will the beta in August be available to the general public?
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post #2 of 19
7/27/05 at 12:08am
"crickets chirping"
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post #3 of 19
7/27/05 at 6:00am
Use Firefox
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post #4 of 19
7/27/05 at 3:52pm
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Yeah, I've tried Firefox before but it seems to use quite a lot of system resources. Am I doing something wrong?
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post #5 of 19
7/27/05 at 6:19pm
probably yes.

keep in mind that since IE is part of windows the resources are already "pre-hogged" if you will. since firfox is all by itself it has to "hog" a little bit of its own resources to run, since windows does not "pre-hog" for firefox as it does for IE.

from what I heard IE7 should be comming as part of Vista. Even XP64 has IE6.x 64-bit edition and that is the latest os from MS. I am pretty sure you can find some leaked BETA builds online, but i wouldn't try your luck because it can corrupt your whole windows.

I suggest firefox if at all possible. Opera is pretty good to for that stuff, it really is.
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post #6 of 19
7/28/05 at 3:25am
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Hmm I guess that would explain Firefox's ram usage. Maybe I'll try it again sometime. Though I don't see anything wrong with IE. Doesn't Windows Update keep me protected, or is Firefox still safer?
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post #7 of 19
7/28/05 at 10:33am
Firefox is still safer. Windows Update only helps AFTER there's been some sort of attack/exploit and Microsoft releases a patch to fix it.

Firefox is safer because most attacks are designed to go after IE and not smaller browsers. Although, if Firefox ever becomes the most used browser you can bet that people will start exploiting that.

That's why I use Opera. No way everyone is going to use it and personally I like it the best out of the three.
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post #8 of 19
7/28/05 at 11:34am
IE also has active x. If MS is smart, it won't show up in IE7.
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post #9 of 19
7/30/05 at 3:45am
Doesen't a good chunk of the MS Internet Explorer components drive most of the GUI (Explorer.exe), thats why Internet Explorer loads so fast, its just like opening a new window, wheras Firefox has to open a new program.

Firefox is open source also. Theres a whole community of people out there who look for bugs in the software, and when they're found because the source code is freely avaliable they can engineer fixes and submit them. With IE if a problem is found you can just tell MS about it and hope they release a fix in the next month or so.

Also - Tabbed browsing, once you start to use it you'll never go back.

I've never tried Opera, I'll get round to it one of these days.
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post #10 of 19
7/31/05 at 7:20pm
M$ decided to make IE part of the Operating System to "make Windows more user friendly" and dominate the browser market. A foolish move if you ask me, the reason why Windows has so many flaws, adware and spyware is because IE is connected to the heart of the OS (and Active X making it worse sometimes) which makes it easier to install or modify stuff without you knowing about it. If IE and Windows ran separately like they used to things like these would not happen.
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post #11 of 19
8/1/05 at 7:05pm
Windows Vista Will have IE7...
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post #12 of 19
8/1/05 at 11:01pm
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Originally Posted by abf
probably yes.

keep in mind that since IE is part of windows the resources are already "pre-hogged" if you will. since firfox is all by itself it has to "hog" a little bit of its own resources to run, since windows does not "pre-hog" for firefox as it does for IE.

from what I heard IE7 should be comming as part of Vista. Even XP64 has IE6.x 64-bit edition and that is the latest os from MS. I am pretty sure you can find some leaked BETA builds online, but i wouldn't try your luck because it can corrupt your whole windows.

I suggest firefox if at all possible. Opera is pretty good to for that stuff, it really is.
that may be true, but as much as that makes it not fair for firefox, since the resources are already pre-hogged as you say, then we might as well use IE since it will not use any additional resources. Using firefox doesnt un-hog the resources IE already hogged.
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post #13 of 19
8/2/05 at 4:50pm
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Interesting. I guess I will wait until the public beta is released. I know the developer beta is released already, but I've heard it was buggy and I don't want to obtain it using shady means anyway.
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post #14 of 19
8/2/05 at 5:14pm
If you having a problem with ram and firefox, then I would suggest getting more ram and still using firefox...IE is ghey.
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post #15 of 19
8/2/05 at 8:46pm
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but apparently when installing IE 7 your Google and Yahoo toolbars go bye bye.
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post #16 of 19
8/3/05 at 1:06pm
Well, I'm too lazy to try another version of a browser that has the very new in tomorrow's technology!!!

- tabbed browsing!!!!
- built-in RSS support!!!! (btw, i believe built-in rss support is not full on this beta)

And what about making people obligated to upgrade to Win XP SP2? Oh, yes, I forgot that nobody uses Win2000 or 98 these days.... that's why some coutries are changing theirs systems to Linux, i tell you.... or do you think I want to pay taxes to government spend buying 1.000s of MS licenses... No way.....

I will upgrade right now. Nah.....

edit: i've seen people telling that when firefox will be widely used, we will start to see more and more security exploits. I believe that, but anyway, I think that to use a security hole like IE and another security hole like Firefox, I prefer the one that has good search capabilities (ff's search engines), has mouse gestures (i can do what I do on the net much faster using the extensions functionalities).... I mean, between a flawed one and a less flawed one, wouldn't you prefer the "less worse" ???
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post #17 of 19
8/3/05 at 6:27pm
I just wish that I knew already whether or not IE7 will include the Q element -- IE6 never finished full support for HTML.

Which is a little sad, since no one cares about it much. They want CSS support more.

But to me HTML is a tad more fundamental for a web browser to support ... I don't even think you should call it a web browser if it doesn't support HTML.

And, what was microsoft thinking ... "oh if we get all the elements but one, that'll be ok ... it's just one letter anyway" (what if it was the A element instead ??!?!?)
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post #18 of 19
8/4/05 at 7:24pm
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Alright, I decided to give it a try anyway. So far so good, at least for basic web browsing. I actually like the minimalist design at the top. Also, unlike what some others said, Windows Update (or rather, Microsoft Update) still works. For a Beta 1, it's at least acceptable. Unfortunately, it uses as much system resources as Firefox (which is the main reason I discontinued using it). Oh well.
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post #19 of 19
8/18/05 at 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by unfalliblekrutc
that may be true, but as much as that makes it not fair for firefox, since the resources are already pre-hogged as you say, then we might as well use IE since it will not use any additional resources. Using firefox doesnt un-hog the resources IE already hogged.
IE still uses some additional resources, and since it doesn't have tabs it uses more resources than Firefox if you have a lot of browser windows open. By the way, you can use another shell instead of explorer.exe, so you don't have to preload IE resources. Litestep is a popular shell, or if you want something lighter try bbLean, which is what I use. It makes Windows start much faster.
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