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Pentium M Vs. Pentium 4

post #1 of 27
8/2/05 at 10:56pm
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I am planning on buying a Dell I6000 with the Pentium M 2.0 processor. My Desktop has a Pentium 4 3.2 processor. How will they compare?

Is the M upgradeable?
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post #2 of 27
8/3/05 at 12:24am
The Pentium M is comparable to the 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 processor, and it may even be faster. The processor is upgradeable.
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post #3 of 27
8/3/05 at 1:40am
Yes, the processor is upgradeable. I've heard that the P-M 2.0 will be comparable to a 3.2 or a 3.4 P4, so you probably will not notice any difference, and if you do, it will be very small.
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post #4 of 27
8/3/05 at 1:45am
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Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
The Pentium M is comparable to the 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 processor, and it may even be faster. The processor is upgradeable.
The Pentium M 2.13 outperforms a Pentium 3.7 Ghz P4 EE for gaming performance.
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post #5 of 27
8/3/05 at 2:34am
Just take the P4 and x1.7 to get PM
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post #6 of 27
8/3/05 at 6:43am
Intel is moving away from the P4.

P-M all the way!!!!
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post #7 of 27
8/3/05 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by YuriSEAL
The Pentium M is comparable to the 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 processor, and it may even be faster. The processor is upgradeable.
Interesting... thanks!
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post #8 of 27
8/3/05 at 1:39pm
i would not recommend P4s for notebooks in pretty much any situation, i think.
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post #9 of 27
8/4/05 at 2:53am
Pentium 4 is a mistake by it's own. A Pentium 3 running at 1.2 GHz can outperform a 1.5 GHz Pentium 4.

It draws a lot of power, wich makes it unsuituable for laptops. You see, for example, IBM.

They almost always make a '0' model (T20, T30, T40) followed by minor revisions (T21, T22, T23; T41, T42, T43) but there is ONLY T30.
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post #10 of 27
8/5/05 at 4:22am
dont know about the T30 but recently saw IBM/lenovo G series sporting the P4 chip on their website
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post #11 of 27
8/5/05 at 4:29am
the p4 is great for some things just not everything...
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post #12 of 27
8/5/05 at 5:13pm
I am also interested in people's experience with the P4 vs PM chip debate. My primary concern is rendering of 3D in ArcScene. ArcScene is a GIS application (computer mapping) that uses digital elevation data to create explorable 3D models of natural landscapes. I also enjoy gaming but have never found games to be the bottle neck for the machines I have owned. Always it is ArcScene or other 3D modeling software that chokes.

Is the PM as good as the P4 for 3D modeling software? Heat and power are not much of an issue for me.

Thanks,

BOb
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post #13 of 27
8/5/05 at 6:30pm
I am what you would call an AMD "fanboy". That said, the Pentium M is a good chip. It's very fast per Mhz and very efficient power wise. If I had to buy an Intel, it would definately be an "M", and that goes 4x for laptops.

My $.04 (dang devalued dollar)
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post #14 of 27
8/6/05 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by baidarkabob
I am also interested in people's experience with the P4 vs PM chip debate. My primary concern is rendering of 3D in ArcScene. ArcScene is a GIS application (computer mapping) that uses digital elevation data to create explorable 3D models of natural landscapes. I also enjoy gaming but have never found games to be the bottle neck for the machines I have owned. Always it is ArcScene or other 3D modeling software that chokes.

Is the PM as good as the P4 for 3D modeling software? Heat and power are not much of an issue for me.

Thanks,

BOb
my guess would be no. But there really isnt any sure way of knowing unless you benchmark it. The p-m has a pretty weak fpu performance compared to the p4 and especially compared to the amd 64. I do believe 3d modeling depends heavily on fpu performance.
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post #15 of 27
8/6/05 at 8:23am
The performance isn't exactly weak, but the Turion delivers much stronger performance in rendering and other workstation related performance.
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post #16 of 27
8/6/05 at 12:20pm

Turion?

Thanks to all for the input.

Too bad the AMD 64 bit future is out of the question for me... http://support.esri.com/index.cfm?fa...leShow&d=29391

Where does one find a laptop with the Turion chip? I did not see that as an option for the XPS gen 2 or any Sager models.

Thanks again,

Bob
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post #17 of 27
8/6/05 at 3:45pm
Do the Ibook G4's have any advantage over the Turion or Pentium-M? I thought they were good at certain things because they have instruction sets builtin to the G4.
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post #18 of 27
8/6/05 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by baidarkabob
Thanks to all for the input.

Too bad the AMD 64 bit future is out of the question for me... http://support.esri.com/index.cfm?fa...leShow&d=29391

Where does one find a laptop with the Turion chip? I did not see that as an option for the XPS gen 2 or any Sager models.

Thanks again,

Bob
AMD processors have all of the Intel instruction sets as well as some others. AMD64 processors also have native support for 32-bit code (as well as 64-bit.) A Turion 64 processor will run your program fine.

And they run on different chipsets.
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post #19 of 27
8/6/05 at 6:52pm
What is FPU?
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post #20 of 27
8/7/05 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by Min
What is FPU?

I think it means "Floating Points Unit"
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