Intel Dual Core 950 is set for January!

Is there any more information like what socket it will fit in?

*looks at Intel's track record with the Netburst architecture*

I doubt it, unless the 9xx series is a dual core Pentium M variant with less worry invested into the TDP.

So do you have any information on this or is it just your speculation/hopes.

Unless this thing is operating at around 5ghz, I seriously doubt it'll outperform the Dual Core athlons, especially considering by the time this is out they'll be even higher end X2's out.

I think he's referring to Yonah, Dual core pentium m's. They'll be more on par with the x2's then the current pentium D lineup.

ummm one thing that is missing 64 bit... yonah wont be 64 bit even though dual core will happen...

Well I certainly hope Intel starts getting some things right Better competition is good for everyone!

Ok I'm reading this and thinking about the last 2 years of Intel. First it was Prescott, which would sweep the day and give us 64bit. It at least gave us 64bit, just a year overdue, at least. Oh and then of course none of those early chips gave us that 64bitness.

So then there was 2mb cache and that would speed things up. I don't think we have to look at more than a dozen benchmarks to see, yes it did speed things up but all it did was turn the pathetic performance to, well, less pathetic.

Meanwhile nearly every upgrade path on the chipset side has been broken, despite repeated assurances that Intel was doing all it could to ensure "long term value" to the customer.

Heat is through the roof. Then you brought it down to scorching, and called it an improvement.

Dual core P4's are so clock slow (gotta watch that heat and power factor right, don't we?) that they just barely manage to defend their existence on multithreaded testing.

Yonah is late, and might be late again! It was supposed to be here beginning of Q4, way back when and that won't happen, in fact it could be another 8 months before we see any real available chips. And by then it won't be 64 bit, and we'll be promised another 6 months for 64bit which will really be 12 months. Meanwhile MS will happily be demonstrating some genuine improvements from 64bitness and no one will want Yonah unless they have no choice.

And you think 65nm P4 dual cores in the mobile arena are going to save the day? If the speeds go high enough to make them compete they will burn themselves up. The power consumption is never going to be resolved with the current design, not ever. And you want me to believe you are going to put that into a laptop?

At this same time, AMD x2's will be approaching power consumptions along the lines of the Yonah (at its higher clockspeeds).

I do apologize insofar as I'm positive that some things about Intel designs are really nice, and top notch. But please don't try to sell people here on the idea that a dual core P4 anything is worth more than BS in a laptop design. And Yonah is going to be late and 64 dollars short if you take my meaning. And I'm not believing any Intel "don't worry the next product will be great" stuff after 2 years of utter BS on their part.

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It will not outperform the X2. The new 900 series Pentium 4 will actually be worst the the current Pentium Extreme Edition (Smithfiled). The 900 Presler series it is not a real dual core chip. There are not actually two cores on the same silicon piece, there are two separated pieces of silicon in the same capsule. Current Extreme Edition has two processors on the same silicon chip. The Presler is actually two separate Cedar Mills in the same capsule. There will be some improvements in regards two performance and power consumptions because they will be 65nm chips not 90nm as current Pentiums. The only thing that they will have and the X2 will not have is hyperthreading. So you will be seeing 4 virtual processors in Task manager. AMD X2 are also moving to 65 nanometers next year.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2445