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@aigle hawk you should definitely uninstall most of the utilities if you don't plan to use them. Some are quite useful though, so choose wisely

@MasterQ I must say you were most unlucky. Maybe Toshy doesn't really like North Americans Seriously, my M70 is working amazingly well and the build quality is superb. No flex, cracks, dead pixels etc.

@all one great program you should consider is Notebook Hardware Control (previously known as Centrino Hardware C.) It's very useful, provides all sorts of neat utilities in one program: undervolting (my M70 is really undervoltable ), current status of battery and remaining time, OC of graphic card, temperatures, CPU speed selection, S.M.A.R.T info...

actually, be careful when removing some drivers, toshiba always recommends keeping them all up in startup lol, but obviously you dont need every single one of them.

i dont know what it is. i loved the m70 for the 3 days i had it, but the first one had a super squeaky, stiff space bar. just wasnt normal, next dead pixel, next the entire thing was loose and would rattle, and next same thing, plus the right half of the keyboard was lopsided.

finally this m60, im happy with it. just got the dvdr drive replaced yesterday and the original one was dead right out of the box.

i just have to get used to the shrunken keys and im all good.

i know someone here mentioned about how their sisters toshiba had a bad soldering problem by the power jack. well ive noticed on my old laptop that it got very loose over time, and even though i never had anything go out i was worried bout it. and my new one, well, its super stiff just to plug this baby in. takes more force than normal, as if it were to go smoothly in. and it wiggles when its in too. hope this isnt a concern.

Yeah, mine also requires some pressure, but the "wiggles" thing doesn't sound good... Are you sure it's normal? After all, it is electricity and no flaws allowed there!

As far as my laptop built is concerned It is perfectly fine and so nice, no complaints at all but I have another problem. I will tell a bit detail.

It was just after few days that OS was not working well. Main problem was that many times when I shut down after using some applications or internet, it did not respond. System hanged and it takes sometimes 5 to 10 minutes to shutdown after repeated commands for that. Many programmes were shown as NOT RESPONDING and some times even ccApp as not responding. Even I had to shutt off most off time by power ff button. Sometimes firefox and IE crashed unexpectedly. The main problem was on shutdown although system did hang up some times during use.

At that time I had put following software in it.

MS antispyware, Spybot, bazooka, Clipboard Recorder, Free online meter, DU Traffic. MSN and Yahoo messenger, Google Talk, EUALyzer, 7-Zip, WinRAR trial, Opera, Spyware blaster, Google desktop search,Firefox with many extensions( flat style, popup master, popup sound, yes popup, tabbed browsing prefrences, colored tabs, no script, down them all, flashgot, dictionary tool tip, answers, google toolbar, yahoo toolbar, google preview, google safe browsing, netcraft toolbar,site advisor, IE tab, IE view, Tab mix plus, Text size toolbar, Google preview,A Timetracker, page zoom, and some themes) IE had sitehound toolbar, google and yahoo toolbar, site advisor, and clodmark toolbar. Don,t think this lot of stuff was the cause as i put almost same stuff on my friends desktop that ic celeron and it,s fine, no such problem.
Also i downloaded some Icons from internet and used them to change Icons of some folders and desktop shortcut items via Properties Tab.

Following programmes i installed but removed WellGet beta( did not work), IconXP( i did not like it at all).

It has following programmes preinstalled, Norton internet security, Toshiba utilities( most of them i disabled from start up by MS antispyware), Adobe acrobat 7( which had some problem with its update).

What caused all this problem? According to my guess it might be caused by myself. Actually I wanted to remove windows messenger but I did not know how to remove, so i searched on net and found a tip. Acc to that I uninstalled the windows messenger by the following way.
I clicked Start > Run and in the Open: box typed the following command
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
press OK, and then again OK whatever the m/message came( i don,t remember what it was , according to the Tip i used it must be Error unregistering theOCX 16422, but mine was different. After that I did not find messenger in my PC. But I suspect I might lost some vital windows components as well during this procedure.

Another problem may be Beta software( CyberHawk, MS antispyware, Google Desktop, PervxR1, SiteAdvisor -- all beta), but removing them did not work.

Infact when i started my system first time it asked for registration with Toshiba and Microsoft and I opted to skip it and to do later. But after my system became buggy, I was not able to run windows registration wizzard. Every time I tried the message came, regitration wizard can,t run because the system information it requires is either unavailable or incorrect.

I did system restore to my first check point and now system became fine, say upto 95%. After this restore I was using internet when Windows prompted me for registration with both Toshiba and Microsoft that i was able to do successsfully.

At the moment the problem is that all other things seemed ok but start up is little slow. Actually when windows XP screen with horizontal animated scrolling bar apperas, this bar stucks in scrolling for few seconds or more multiple times( i have never seen like it before) . Secondly on shutdown 50%of times the message comes: file PadTouch_FingerWnd is not responding and if i click End, system shuts down well otherwise stucks. Rarely ccApp doesnot respond but shutsdown itself after few seconds.

Now I want to restore my system by formatting via recovery CD. Any help or suggestions?

Just one thing I forgot to mention that It had Norton internet security preinstalled and it was activated by me after one day of purchase( 3 months free). After system resotore all is ok but its intrusion detection system part is not working. however I think It is obvious as I did system restore to the point when this software was still not activated.

I need your suggestions. I am concerned mainly about 2 things,first does my warranty covers this problem as my laptop is very new(few weeks old ). 2ndly is this a pure software problem or can be any hardware issue as well( my extreme concern).

Wow, long post

Hm... I don't think any of the programs you've listed would cause such problems. I'm a bit sceptical about your uninstallation of windows messenger though... I've never bothered to uninstall it, but I reckon it can be done this way:

Add or remove programs>Add/remove Windows components and then tick everything you want on your PC.

Why didn't you use the restore CD supplied by Toshiba? It's the best way to turn the laptop to a 100% working condition. I haven't had the need to try it yet, luckily And why delaying the registration? Do it ASAP, especially if you want to use Windows update service.

Norton Internet Security sucks. I personally have Kaspersky AV + ZoneAlarm Pro but then again- it's your choice

Thanks. I intend to use the restore CD now. Is it easy,as I am novice in this matter. I have already registered. How I can check my registration status on microsoft site.

Another thing, when I reinstall windows by recovry CD, do I need to register again?

I wil use Antivir, MS Antispyware, Window,s own firewall and might be Prevx 1R and winpatrol -- all free.

Hello,

I am looking for a new laptop and found the M70. Seems to be a nice laptop, but I want to know if it is absolutely quiet when running with batterys?

I need an absolutely silent notebook. I hate noisy fans disturbing me when looking DivX-Videos on my TV.

I had a while beforce the Acer Aspire 1692 which was actually absolutely quiet (similar specs) but it was IMO from bad quality.

Oh, you needn't worry about the noise while on battery. M70 is totally silent, you only hear the fan during bootup

Really? That sounds good.

And while DivX or Mpeg Playback?

Thats weird my fan is running almost constantly even when im doing nothing but moving from web page to web page is something wrong with my machine or maybe my settings???

Also i can feel the bottom getting quite warm sometimes is this something i should be concerned about??

Infact there is exaust at bottom, if laptop is not on totally falt table, this exaust is partially occcluded and makes it warm. I sometimes put a folded paper underleft corner when I use it on my table,I think it give more room for exaust. I saw when i put laptop on my bed mattress, bottm exaust was closed and all panel was warm.

hawk is right, its a very good idea to prop your laptop off the table a couple inches. i have two small tin can under the back feet of mine. besides, less neck stran as its easier to see and more ergonomic typing for the hands.

Haven't tried yet, but I soon will.



Are you using Toshiba power saver? It should lower the CPU power to 800Mhz, and therefore reduce heat. Go to: Control Panel > System to check current speed.

I've lowered the CPU voltage too using Notebook Hardware Control. It's working at 0.700 while on 800Mhz. Since I did this almost instantly after buying the laptop, I can't tell you if it's made any difference.

The warmth is indeed normal, as stated on the bottom of the lappy (PC base can become hot blah blah blah)

As hawk mentioned, when using it on a soft surface (eg. bed) the exhaust gets blocked and the underside gets noticeable hotter, particulary the HD. I have no problems when using it on a desk, no tin cans needed Although it would be of great help while typing, so I'll try that.

Cheers

I have been using Notebook Hardware Control over Toshiba Power Saver and I have definately noticed that the exhaust fan on the left side of the laptop doesn't turn on nearly as often. As for during graphic intense gaming the laptop does get hot but it is definitely somethign I would expect from a laptop with this 256mb card.

sorry i am an idiot but where can i find "Notebook Hardware Control"