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Old 05-24-2006, 07:14 AM   #1
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ModelSager NP4750
ProcessorTurion ML-44
Video CardATI Mobility Radeon 9700
Display17" Widescreen
Memory2GB
Disk Storage60GB 7200rpm Hitachi


a big thanz for bios msantos

thanks for pming that bios, i swapped out my 3.2gig and put in a ml-37 i got on ebay. everything is just tickety boo. i downloaded all the drivers and software from amd.com pertaining to the turion.
the fans just hum quietly away now plus its gotta help battery life.
thanks once again
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:50 PM   #2
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Cool Successful Turion ML-44 Upgrade

I have a D470k (with a 3400+) which I got through M-Tech (poor support though, I wouldn't recommend them) in August '04. I had upgraded to 2.04a about a week previously, so I just popped the new proc in with some Dynex silver paste (from Best Buy), rebooted the thing, and it came right up. Haven't had any problems with BSODs or anything...

It runs noticeably cooler (my wrist doesn't burn), and after following the extremely useful Rightmark instructions upthread, it idles at 802Mhz and throttles nicely up and down between that and 2.41Mhz. The fan idles at a lower speed, but it still runs constantly. I do have the 5400RPM drive, which probably runs a bit hotter, but I'm not sure. I'd love it if I could get the fan to shut off entirely, if anyone has any suggestions.

At Idle, the CPU sticks right around 31 degrees C, and the HD is at 40 degrees C.

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Old 05-03-2006, 09:17 AM   #3
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I have a D470k (with a 3400+) which I got through M-Tech (poor support though, I wouldn't recommend them) in August '04. I had upgraded to 2.04a about a week previously, so I just popped the new proc in with some Dynex silver paste (from Best Buy), rebooted the thing, and it came right up. Haven't had any problems with BSODs or anything...

It runs noticeably cooler (my wrist doesn't burn), and after following the extremely useful Rightmark instructions upthread, it idles at 802Mhz and throttles nicely up and down between that and 2.41Mhz. The fan idles at a lower speed, but it still runs constantly. I do have the 5400RPM drive, which probably runs a bit hotter, but I'm not sure. I'd love it if I could get the fan to shut off entirely, if anyone has any suggestions.

At Idle, the CPU sticks right around 31 degrees C, and the HD is at 40 degrees C.
Indeed, except for the vendor details, your example and details echoes much of the positive email feedback I've received. On this perspective, it lends credability to Eurocom's statetement that all their D470K's should support the upgrade. I still hope that all other vendors drew from the same Clevo production stream.

I am not sure my notebook's fan stops spinning at all. But given the temps it reaches when idling I defintely cannot hear the fan at all. I only notice a little rev-up wirl when the temp reaches 40 celcius - and even after this the fan is barely audible.


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Old 05-08-2006, 11:34 AM   #4
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2.04a bios...

I would like someone to send my bios 2.04a so I can fix UDMA 2 problem.

I have sent PM to msantos but didn't get a reply...

If someone else has the file please send it to

uneekone@gmail.com

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Old 05-08-2006, 12:37 PM   #5
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I would like someone to send my bios 2.04a so I can fix UDMA 2 problem.

I have sent PM to msantos but didn't get a reply...

If someone else has the file please send it to

uneekone@gmail.com

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Sorry. Yesterday was a family day for me so I did not touch a computer at all .

Anyhow I sent you the email. Good luck.

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Old 05-08-2006, 02:45 PM   #6
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Thank you so much!!!


Works great!

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Old 05-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #7
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@MSANTOS,

Hi I sent you a pm with my email. Can you please forward me the BIOS update so that I can test it.

Thx.
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Old 05-10-2006, 12:01 PM   #8
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@MSANTOS,

Hi I sent you a pm with my email. Can you please forward me the BIOS update so that I can test it.

Thx.
Done. Sorry for the delay. I never realized that there were THAT many D470K users out there.

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Old 05-10-2006, 07:47 PM   #9
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Got It Will try tm. Hope it works .
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Old 05-27-2006, 08:34 AM   #10
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Anyone got a copy of 1.04, 1.05 and/or 2.04a they can send me?
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Old 06-03-2006, 11:29 AM   #11
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4750/D470K MT-40 freeze-up

Hi,
I upgraded my Clevo D470k with a Turion MT-40 and having the problem with the notebook not running on cool & quiet mode. When I use RM clock with the settings as on page 5 the notebook freezes randomly.... Any idea somebody?
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Old 06-03-2006, 11:42 AM   #12
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Hi,
I upgraded my Clevo D470k with a Turion MT-40 and having the problem with the notebook not running on cool & quiet mode. When I use RM clock with the settings as on page 5 the notebook freezes randomly.... Any idea somebody?
You may have to play with the minimum and maximum voltages.

The MT parts are typically rated at 1.2Volts (max)

Obviously, the MT-40 will also have a lower maximum multiplier. I am not sure how the MT CPU series fare in the D470K platform, but I suspect the ML series may be more tolerant of any voltage discrepancy as mine has proven to be.

Undervolting or overvolting these CPU's to much can easily cause lockups. Give the voltages a try and try to tweak these until your MT runs solid.

The other thing you may want to check is the effective windows power scheme. it should be set to RMClock Power Management.


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Old 06-04-2006, 04:05 AM   #13
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You may have to play with the minimum and maximum voltages.

The MT parts are typically rated at 1.2Volts (max)

Obviously, the MT-40 will also have a lower maximum multiplier. I am not sure how the MT CPU series fare in the D470K platform, but I suspect the ML series may be more tolerant of any voltage discrepancy as mine has proven to be.

Undervolting or overvolting these CPU's to much can easily cause lockups. Give the voltages a try and try to tweak these until your MT runs solid.

The other thing you may want to check is the effective windows power scheme. it should be set to RMClock Power Management.


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I changed the minimum voltage from 0.800V to 0.850V and the maximum from 1.275V to 1.200V. Both values I can find in AMD's documentaton to the MT-40. The multiplier is limited to a max of 11.0x by default, means I cannot even select 12.0x......
In the power-schema of Windows I set RM clock already.....BTW - using Windows's schemas I have no problem besides the CPU running on 2.2 GHz at all times.

What wonder's me quite a bit is the problem happens mainly when I download something via my WLAN-card. I am using an Atheros-card now because of XP64-support (what I don't use now....). When I received the Notebook there was an Intel 2200BG installed that caused the Machine to stop with black-screen frequently. I wonder if there is a root to both symptoms
I didn't test that yet with the wired LAN, but that comes next

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Old 06-05-2006, 12:25 PM   #14
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Hey there! I have a few questions about the processor. Is it dual core, and how does it compare with my 470k 3400 DTR processor? And pricing. I'm having issues with my screen right now and I have to send the lappy in for repair. The sound is starting to get to me though in classes. Sounds like a jet engine when rendering. But the major issue now is dealing with Phillips and getting my screen and firewire port repaired.
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Old 07-24-2006, 02:52 PM   #15
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I didn't read the entire thread but did anyone got an Turion MT working in a 4750? If yes I'm ordering mine right now, even if I cannot find a retail one, which seems to be pretty rare i guess.
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