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My Sony VAIO AR170G Review
I just recently got my AR, so i thought i would share my experience with everyone (using my AR of course).
I ordered my VGN-AR170G on a Tuesday, got free ground shipping, and received it the following Monday. I actually ordered my wife an FJ series laptop together with my AR, so they both came together on Monday. Although Sony was having a promotion for free ground shipping, i received both laptops via Fedex Standard Overnight. I don't know how that happened, but it was a pleasant surprise. Reasons for Buying: I wanted a desktop replacement that could play games and run Photoshop but also have enough multimedia functions to connect to and make use of a 42in Plasma HDTV and home theater system. I originally saw the AR190G and was floored by the design and the fact that it had HDMI out and Optical out. (I wasn't too interested in the Blu-Ray drive since it's new technology and the fact that the Blu-Ray v. HD-DVD battle has not been settled yet. I figured if Blu-Ray does become the next standard, i'll just buy a separate Blu-Ray player for my TV). However the $3500 price tag caused me to look elsewhere to satisfy my multimedia and gaming needs. Other models i considered were: Dell E1705, Asus W2JB, Sager 5760, and the Alienware m9700. Here were my main requirements: 1. 17" WUXGA 1920x1200 screen 2. Mid to Hi lvl. Graphics Card 3. Dual Core CPU 4. HDMI out or DVI out with Digital Audio out 5. TV Tuner 6. Relatively thin and flat (I don't like the slanted style laptops. I prefer the MacBook Pro style laptop) 7. Black color scheme 8. Under $3000 ******************************************************* Dell E1705 ~ $2200 after 35% discount Pros: - good video card - Geforce Go 7900 GS - WUXGA screen - Centrino Core Duo - DVI Out - Boxy design Cons: - Dell's design is generic looking - External TV Tuner - white/silver color scheme - Not as thin as i would like - 1.7 in. thick Asus W2JB ~ $2300 Pros: - Centrino Core Duo - Black color scheme - Great reputation for quality - mini-DVI out - SPDIF out - Built in TV tuner - Thin Cons: - no WUXGA screen option - somewhat lower graphics card - ATI x1600 Sager 5760 ~ $2600 Pros: - WUXGA screen - Top of the line Graphics Card - Geforce Go 7900 GTX - Centrino Core Duo - DVI out - TV Tuner Cons: - Silver color scheme - Thick and Slanted Alienware m9700 ~ $3000 Pros: - Dual SLI Geforce Go 7900 GS - Built-in TV tuner - Boxy design - DVI out Cons: - Expensive (w/SLI config) - No Dual Core CPU - Not as thin as i would like - 1.66 in. thick ******************************************************* I ended up ordering the Dell E1705 because i thought it had most of the options i was looking for (Good video card, DVI out, boxy design, core duo, etc. At the time I thought i could live with the design...turns out i thought wrong). (Note: I just recently found out that the W2JB has mini-DVI out. If i had known back then, i probably would've ordered the ASUS). The day after the E1705 shipped from Dell, i found out that Sonystyle.com had begun offering customized versions of their AR series laptops without the Blu-Ray drive. After running some sample configs, i came up with a config and price that i was comfortable with. Shortly after, I contacted Dell, cancelled my E1705 order (btw, Dell has great customer service), and placed my order for a customized AR170G with free ground shipping (which they later on shipped standard overnight). Here are the specs i ended up with: VGN-AR170G Intel Core Duo T2500 2.0 GHz 512MB 533 MHz Ram (already had 2x1GB 667 GHZ waiting at home) Geforce Go 7600GT 256MB RAM w/ premium casing (whatever that means) 160 GB HDD (80GB x2 in RAID 0 config) Bluetooth 2.0 Built-in TV Tuner with remote Extended Battery Windows MCE Here are the Specifications from the Sonystyle website: ******************************************************* Specifications Model VGN-AR170 Processor1 (Configurable) Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2300 (1.66GHz) Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2400 (1.83Ghz) Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2500 (2.0GHz) Intel® Core™ Duo Processor T2600 (2.16GHz) 2MB L2 Cache Operating System (Configurable) Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 with NTSC TV Tuner Microsoft® Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 or XP Professional with SP2 Front Side Bus Speed 667MHz Chipset (Configurable) Intel® 945PM or Intel® 945GM Wireless LAN(Configurable) Intel® PRO/Wireless 3915ABG Network Connection (802.11a/b/g)2 and Bluetooth® Technology Intel® PRO/Wireless 3915ABG Network Connection (802.11a/b/g) LCD3 17” WUXGA (1920x1200) with XBRITE™ technology and NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 GT or 17” WXGA (1440x900) with XBRITE™ technology and NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 Hard Drive (Configurable) 320GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 240GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 200GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 160GB 4200rpm Serial ATA4 120GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 100GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 80GB 4200rpm Serial ATA 60GB 4200rpm Serial ATA Memory (Configurable) 2GB (1GB x 2) PC2-4200 DDR2, 533MHz 1GB (1GB x 1) PC2-4200 DDR2, 533MHz 1GB (512MB x 2) PC2-4200 DDR2, 533MHz 512MB (512MB x 1) PC2-4200 DDR2, 533MHz Graphics (Configurable) NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7600 GT or NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7600 Graphics Interface VGA out w/ Smart Display Sensor, HDMI out and S-Video out Optical Drive6 DVD+R Double Layer / DVD±RW Drive DVD+R DL Write --- 4x max. DVD-R DL Write --- 4x max. DVD±RW --- Yes DVD+R Write --- 8x max. DVD+RW Write --- 8x max. DVD-R Write --- 8x max. DVD-RW Write --- 6x max. DVD-RAM Write --- 5x max. DVD-RAM Read --- 5x max. DVD Read --- 8x max. CD-R Write --- 24x max. CD-RW Write --- 16x max. CD Read --- 24x max. Modem Integrated V.90 Modem with RJ-11 interface Ethernet 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX Fast Ethernet with RJ-45 interface Audio Sony® Sound Reality™ - Audio Enhancer Audio Interface Microphone jack, Headphone jack Memory Stick® Media Slot Supports optional Memory Stick® and Memory Stick DUO™ media5 with MagicGate® functionality and Secure Digital Media (SD) PC Card Slots ExpressCard™ /54 Slot, PCMCIA - Type II/Type I card slot with CardBus support Other Interfaces 4pin i.LINK® connector(IEEE 1394), 3 USB 2.0 ports, VGA out Pointing Device Electro-Static touch pad Keyboard QWERTY, 86 keys with 2.5mm stroke and 19.05mm pitch Action Buttons S1, S2, AV Mode, Volume, Mute, Eject, Play/Pause/Stop, Wireless LAN On/Off, FF and Rewind Power Requirements 150W+10% Camera Built-in Camera and Microphone or none Battery Standard Battery (VGP-BPS2B) Estimated Battery Life 2.0 - 3.5 hours13 (Standard Battery) Sony Original Software Click to DVD® - DVD Creation SonicStage Mastering Studio™ - Audio Mastering and Remastering SonicStage® - Digital Music DVgate™ Plus - Digital Video VAIO Media™ - Network File Sharing Image Converter - PSP™ Transfer Underworld - Pre-installed Movie 60-Minute Trial Version of Wheel of Fortune® 60-Minute Trial Version of Jeopardy® Supplied Software Adobe® Photoshop® Elements 4.0 Adobe® Premiere Elements 2.0 InterVideo® WinDVD® Roxio® DigitalMedia SE Microsoft® Works 8.5 with Microsoft® Office Trial (Student/Teacher Edition)171 60-Day Trial Version of Microsoft Digital Image Starter Edition 2006 Intuit Quicken® 2005 New User Edition (Previous Quicken users may require additional upgrade) DISCover My Games Anti-Virus and Recovery Software Norton® Internet Security 60-Day Subscription TrendMicro™ Anti-Spyware 30-Day Trial Iolo® System Mechanic 30-Day Trial VAIO® Recovery Wizard VAIO® Update VAIO® Support Central VAIO® Security Center Internet Services America Online® 180-Day Trial - New Users Only Service and Warranty Information Limited Warranty 1 Year Limited Warranty with Onsite Service Telephone Support 1 year toll-free technical telephone assistance, available 24/7 On-line and Email Support Support available from http://www.esupport.sony.com Supplied Accessories Standard Lithium-ion Battery (VGP-BPS2B) AC Adapter (VGP-AC19V15) Power Cord Optional Accessories Multi-Function Docking Station (VGP-PRFE1) Universal Carrying Case (VGP-AMB1) DVD R DL/DVD±RW Drive Bay (VGP-DRWBX1) CD-RW Drive Bay Unit (VGP-CRWBX1) 80GB HDD Drive Bay Unit (VGP-UHBX08A) Color Black Weight 8.4 lbs. (weight is approximate and may vary) Measurements 16.4"(W) x 1.32"(H) x 11.8"(D) ******************************************************* *Please note that for some reason, Sonystyle lists all the HDD configs as only having the 4200 RPM drive available for this model. I did a quick investigation on the two 80GB drives installed on my laptop and i found that i have two Toshiba MK8032GSX installed which is a 5400 RPM drive. Here is the CNET description of this drive: The Toshiba MK8032GSX is an 80GB, notebook replacement hard drive. Compared to other notebook replacement hard drives on the market, it is inexpensive at around $120. Its maximum internal data transfer rate of 53.6 MBps is very fast, compared to the typical hard drive. Its burst transfer rate is 150 MBps. This is a 5400 rpm drive and has an 8MB buffer. **Also note that the laptop comes with mini-Optical Audio out but Sony doesn't advertise it on their Specifications, only in the "Explore AR" window. I also found out that my LCD display is manufactured by Sharp (MS_0040). I ended up paying $2600 for my setup. Upon arrival, the first thing i did was remove most of the bloatware (this laptop comes with a good amount of it). I also ran some benchmarks out of the box with 1x512MB 533MHz RAM and the 2x1GB 667MHz RAM: 3DMark 03 - 512 MB - 11022 3DMark 05 - 512 MB - 4907 3DMark 03 - 2GB - 11330 3DMark 05 - 2GB - 4984 Before i get to the pictures, one last remark. The screen is incredibly bright! The screen brightness has 8 settings, and for the most part, i leave this on 4 and it is more than bright enough for everyday use. And without further adieu, my gallery: Nice packaging from Sony Accessories included Profile View Keyboard Layout Side view with LCD closed Height of the laptop compared to an index card The underside - note the bottom middle cover is for the Memory and the larger cover on the right is for the HDD (i think, i didn't open that one yet) Here are some comparison pics next to my wife's FJ series 14.1 in. laptop Built-in webcam and mic Wireless on/off switch and Wireless and Bluetooth lights Memory Stick Slots - supports SD/MMC and MS PRO and PRO DUO Informational LEDs - Power, Battery, Harddrive, Memory Stick LCD Latch/Lock Left Side Media Controls Right Side Media Controls & Power Button Dual Layer DVD ROM Drive Optical Out, Headphone and Mic Jack Extended Battery (It lifts the laptop up a little bit which may be good for cooling purposes Here you can see how much the laptop is lifted by the extended battery DC Plug and Rear USB port TV Tuner VHF/UHF Ethernet and Modem Port Firewire port, S-Video in/out, HDMI, and VGA ports Front Right USB ports and Expresscard Slot Glowing VAIO sign The only thing about this laptop that disappointed me is the slight light leakage that i see. Before i purchased this laptop, i was under the impression that Sony LCDs were top notch, so i wrongly assumed that there would not be a light leakage problem. I was somewhat disappointed when i noticed a bit of light leakage when the screen went black. I've tried contacting Sony tech support, but they just told me that this is normal for this laptop because the LCD inverter is installed at the bottom due to lack of space in the thin LCD design. I just wonder if i'm the only person experiencing this, so if anyone else has this same laptop, but does not notice anything please let me know. It's not a huge problem, nor is it extremely noticeable, but i thought i should bring it to everyone's attention. On a good note, i don't have any dead pixels! Please note that reducing the brightness of the screen also helps with the light leakage. Here is best picture i could take to most accurately show the amount of light leakage coming from this screen *Note, if your screen is really dark, you may not see the light leakge at all. It's only along the bottom edge. Last but not least, my bluetooth mouse and headphones which both work flawlessly with this laptop. They both connect instantaneously and work wonderfully. I've been able to play both FarCry and Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter at max settings on a decent resolution at full widescreen (can't remember the exact resolution) without any hiccups. So it's a great gaming laptop for those casual gamers who aren't looking for the best of the best graphics solutions. I haven't had the opportunity to hook this laptop up to my TV yet, but once i do i'll post some additional information. Last edited by qhn; 10-13-2009 at 01:45 PM. |
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You've got to be kidding me....they couldn't make a flush fitting laptop battery on a 17" notebook??? WTF were they thinking??
Otherwise...nice system.
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Hi RE-Amemiya
Thanks for the review. Would you be able to test the battery life of the notebook for the extended battery? I'm curious to find out how long it would run playing a DVD or doing productivity work with wireless turned on and set to maximum battery. Would you be able to run this test, starting the computer from a fully charged battery? Thanks again for your time, Rayt |
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Wow!
This is the first notebook (besides the model you can customize in color) from Sony that I have EVER liked! That is one sweet looking book! I like that black, 'Apple' glossy look, they really did an excellent job on this machine. I didn't even know notebooks had HDMI outputs yet, I couldn't believe when I saw it on Sony's site tonight. I would have stuck with the standard battery though, I hate notebooks that have a higher capacity battery that sticks out from the body, that's just tacky looking to me.
If I wanted to spend 3 grand on a notebook, I would def get one of these new AR series without a doubt! They are simply georgous machines. BTW, I'm still confused on blueray technology (however you spell it.) Can you explain exactly what this is? Thanks. |
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I agree about the battery. I was pretty surprised and somewhat disappointed when i saw that the extended battery wasn't flush with the system. If i had known this before i purchased the system, i probably would not have gotten the extended battery.
Since i've started using it, it doesn't really seem to get in the way of every day use, especially since i've been using it on a small table. I've also used the laptop without the battery inserted and it doesn't really seem to make much of a difference. I'm considering buying a standard battery later down the road for traveling purposes and keeping the extended battery as backup. But for now, it gets the job done. |
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I'll try and run the test sometime over the weekend and let you know what i find. |
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Awesome review and pics
Great job on the review and pics.I just got the AR190 two days ago.It is a pretty sweet machine but I will most likely send it back or sell it on ebay.I can not get windows vista to run without crashing and also I am not happy with the display at all.I have had Vaios in the past and this one is the worst display yet.It is cloudy on the sides and the brightness is not good at all.I currently (glad I have not sold it) have a Fujitsu N6410 and it blows the AR190 away is the display department.I also have owned two Qosmio's in the past and their diplays are way better.Maybe I got a bad one for for 3500 bucks there is no way I am going to live with it.Anyway you did a great job with the pictures because this thing is sweet to look at.Best of luck with your AR.
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That's too bad you don't like your AR. Honestly, despite the slight light leakage, i still think the screen is beautiful...but then again this is my first laptop so i don't have much to compare it to. But i'm definitely happy with it. btw, can you post some screen shots of your screen...i'd like to have something to compare my screen with. Do you have any light leakage? and what do you mean by "cloudy on the sides?" I think it's super bright on the highest setting...i can't imagine wanting an even brighter display.
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Thank You
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looks like a nice machine, for a 17inch the graphics could have been higher but its not that bad really, the 7600 is a good card.
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I'd love to have seen a 7900 or something in it, but oh well. I'll probally still get one. I bet you some AS5, overclock it, reformat to remove bloatware, this can get in the 6,000's.
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Try this:
http://www.tweaksrus.com/index.php?o...d=676&Itemid=1 Forceware 91.31 V2 made expcially for Notebooks with Nvidia cards in it. I'm running it on my Dell(Sux), with a 6800, and the 7600GT should work too. Thats a pretty nice increase for just drivers. Another thing I would suggest is Notebook Hardware Control, and put it on maxium to reduce speed steeping (The notebook going to 800Mhz when it dosent have to do anything stressful in a certain part of the game)
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I have the UK equivelent, AR11S, the screen is a disappointment for me. I had the a397xp which had a really bright screen and glossy finish but it didnt have this horrible coating that my ar11s has. Its like paint that sparkles. Anyone else experience this?
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