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Recording option
Hi all folks.
First of all, many thank you for those who worked so good to provide us so better sigmatel driver . I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 and I would ask you three question: 1) Can I record any sound I hear in my notebook ? I say is there an option to record "what you hear"? 2) How can I use "stereo mix" option in record control? Can you give me some useful examples? 3) What is "input monitor" slide? Sorry if my questions seem to be stupid, but really I would like to know something more. Best regards Akal |
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1. "FREE Hi-Q Recorder" - works GREAT but won't work with your Inspiron 9400 -- I mention it here because it will work on just about any other system, (and maybe on Inspiron 9400 after folks on this thread make new Sigmatel drivers...) 2. "Total Recorder" - lets you record one source i.e. streaming audio, while listening to something else -- DVD, mp3, etc (AND works with Inspiron 9400). Can find both with a Google Search. -J |
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I'm new to any forum but this I had to get in on. Psychokitty first; I have 2 week old Dell Inspiron E1705 which contains Sigmatel 9200 audio. Audigy HD EQ works very well as does the subwoofer level control though there semes to be no crossover save the tiny "sub" firing it's full range into your main event instead of your face. Still way better than most notebook bass. Get the Audigy HD Software if you need fulltime global EQ otherwise skip it and use your players EQ or another EQ Plugin.
Dell has chosen not to implement many options of the Sigmatel 9200 mostly through limited circuitry not just drivers and .ini files. Be careful what you play with.You may turn off the S/PDIF output that is nestled between the S-video pins by altering an .ini file but what if you say turn on the 9200's S/PDIf input for which there is no accompanying input. Probably a nice fader will appear that does nothing but mabey trouble. It's also a 24 bit chip but that is being limited to 16. You poor bastards with the snapped off headphone jacks: Sigmatel uses an integrated 1 watt per channel amp with impedance sensing circuitry at the jacks (like in a dual video card) not physical switches. If you can eliminate the short (or open) caused by the broken jack your speakers should re-appear. I offer this as an alternative to .ini modification. There is code in the Sigmatel ini's that call this impedance polling and you can find it easily though I personally would be shy to mod it. Veaser: Kudos and salutations. You're doing brave work. It is what brought me to the forum though I'm still affraid of trying some of this. If I could get this machine to do what it should already ; that is record the Stereo Mix without physical jumpering and record the internal Audigy HD software synth all while monitoring inputs then I'll go out on the limb. Dell should offer us these options but have crippled there product for one very good reason which has nothing to with copywrite law: It would be a nightmare for them in customer support simply eliminating record/monitor feedback loops. Still they owe it to us even if with a disclaimer. On some MAC sites you may here of the illicit distro OSXx86 it contains a driver for Sigmatel 9220 but not 9200. Those guys are hacking diligently on a driver to get the sound working. Mabey some common ground though a reverse port from OSX to Windows is the long trip home. Last edited by Geep; 09-26-2006 at 10:37 PM. |
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Seeing my first post ever I am so sorry for being more verbose than a Linux install.
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I'm not sure if this is a big "duh" but I noticed that you can get audio out of the "s-video" jack in different ways, depending on what cable you plug into it. (This is from the M90 support section)
Have a look at this: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc....htm#wp1054252 ![]() 1 S-video TV-out connector 3 S/PDIF digital audio connector 5 S-video connector 2 composite video adapter 4 composite video-output connector Hope it helps, if not just ignore me ![]() Anyway thanks for your dilligent work on this driver update. |
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i have a dell e1505 but when i hack the driver and enable the imput monitor it only lets me hear the left side, i hear the LG50 sigmatel drivers will work for my e1505 anyone have those drivers plz?
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Jockomo: The only duh is why did they do this? ...They sell the adapter. Ever try to replace a Dell motherboard: 1/2'' short of room for an ATX. That's how they get yah. In fairness even a 1705 is space limited.
BACK on Subject Veazers original project for e1705/9400. it has been 6 months since the initial challenge. Could someone post a simple step by step to accomplish significant audio options both with and without Audigy Software? I don't care if I have to dump Audigy and lose the EQ. I have tried the ini at post #64 expanding it and replacing the file of the same name in the drivers onboard audio folder but of no avail. Is Audigy in the way or must I really install the LG Driver too. I don't want to have to reinstall the Dell driver. A proper .ini should not be 4 times the size of the original. I inspected the contents of this .ini and it references features that the Sigmatel 9200 chip dosen't support in any circuit but that the 9220 does. It is little wonder that some people have found sliders and EQ interfaces that simply dont do any thing. I surmise the core drivers for other chips ie. Sigmatel 9220 to be the same but the .ini's, reg. entries, etc. written by the installers of different chips merely call out different features. Last edited by Geep; 09-27-2006 at 01:20 AM. |
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Sumyungai, thanks but I don't want to use other software;
I would like to use recording option in hacked driver. Soundblaster live's driver had a recorded option called "what you hear" who allowed users to record whatever sound you're listening in that moment (internet, tv...). akal |
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andcalc if you don't need to record your line in in that mix a passive stereo pot (ganged voltage divider)inline from output back to input. Cheap and easy but make sure you mute the input monitor. if you start with the gains low you may be able to use just a stereo 1/8" to 1/8" cable. with a stereo Y you can listen to what is happening.
Soundblaster Live does this including the the mic, line, etc (and more analog sources in Audigy 2) but it is an analog switching / mixing trick as evidenced by no latency on the analog sources regardless of driver type. It is also the reason why you get echo with a pro audio app if you have both software monitoring turned as well on as the input your recording unmuted in your sound cards control panel. Hearken back to veasers recommendation of using Wuschels Asio4All for all with pro and semi-pro apps and achieving 3 ms latency. I dont think any typical players will use an Asio driver but can coexist. The real limitation is that you can't utilize multiple sound cards with ASIO. Asio4All may be confused by more than one sound card and not work at all. It seems there will be an ASIO driver specifically for the Sigmatel chips if there isn't one already. Last edited by Geep; 09-27-2006 at 10:42 PM. |
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Oh My hat's off to Falerus who is way up the road from me on this stuff and has provided something concrete. I welcome his tuteledge yet hope my views contributes in some way.
deeg you may be onto something but lets take a look at does LG50 use the same chip. Then does it implement the same circuit options like only one stereo input and no S/PIDIF input etc. If it has a Sigmatel 9200 it MUSI implement S/PDIF output. LG50 might in fact have a S/PIDIF input be it optical or wired, may be 48khz only or 44, 48, 88. 96. Which are supported A/D conversions in the E1705 All of these can have software panel controls. And just because Dell crippled an allready limited chip with respect to rec/mon options don't think the 9200 can't do all that: It can. In fact it does 24 bit 192khz A/D conversion if the circuirt will let it though I've only tested it out to 24/96 in the 1705. Don't waste the extra 8 bits as they sit mostly below the noise: I was left with a -59 db of dc offset and -74 of residual noise which would be not bad if we're talkin'about a tape recorder. I searched for the LG50 but found no relevant info. Well try the LG50 drivers anyway but have your Dell driver installer handy and be ready to pick out any .ini's by date and time that are not uninstalled nor overwritten. Some nice guy at Dell or Sigmatel could easily create a complete installer that would put everything in place based on hardware found. If that happens it'll be about a week after this hack is complete and we can all rescue our machines from there ephasia. Last edited by Geep; 09-28-2006 at 03:11 AM. |
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Very thanks Geep, ingenious. You said I just link headphone output to line in input by 1/8" to 1/8" cable and record "line in". Another question, please.
How good is Sigmatel 9200's A/D converter ? I mean, can I record 24 bit/96 Khz analog signals with high quality? Is it better to use standard driver or ASIO driver? Best wishes Akal |
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andcalc: Yes you can and the converter is good but you can see that S/N is not what Sigmatel offers (better than) -90db. A low noise high level signal entering your line in then attenuated in the mixer panel should improve S/N substantially. I dont mean +4 db, you must not exceed the inputs headroom.
ASIO if low latency is important, that is to say if you want to here effect plugins in close to real time as you are recording. WDM drivers are simply fine if you can tolerate a lag of a 20th or 10th of a second. Don't use MME drivers the options are very limited and I've not been able to get 24bit to work with MME. Remember each audio program you use will require driver preferences to be set. Most non-pro apps like players will simply default to WDM or MME and may not use ASIO at all. And that is fine for what they are meant to do. Case in point Winamp will play back a 24/96 file but to my knowledge still doesn't support ASIO driver. Having an ASIO installed is an option available to apps that can use it and does not supplant your sound cards resident drivers. Wuschels ASIO4All works well but only run it in the prescence of one sound card. WDM can see many inputs and outputs from multiple cards and leave them assignable to individual tracks. If you ever need to record a live performance to say 4 tracks on your laptop plug in another sound device via USB or 1394, Set your audio program to use WDM, assign inputs to tracks armed to record and hit record. Oh if one of the devices like an iMic is limited to 16bits you must set the program prefs accordingly. To do this in ASIO you would need a dedicated multi-channel audio interface and that would surely come with its own dedicated ASIO drivers. I hope I haven't strayed too far off subject. Feel free to tell me to go to a different thread. |
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Can anyone use a microphone with their late-model Inspiron for VOIP or in games that have VOIP features? I can get mine to record wavs, but it doesn't work in Skype, teamspeak, ventrilio, etc.
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