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Adam, which unit do you feel is the better for gaming?

Does this apply to the 8790 as well or just the Acer?

I just ordered a barebone 8790 from Hypersonic (still no ship yet, might consider cancelling, supposed to ship the 30th) and the dead pixel policy was the deciding factor.

This sheds new light on my situation. I would have most certainly ordered from pctorque if I had a dead pixel policy. Not wanting to debate whether it is necessary or not, just something I wanted.

I am also curious: If you had to choose, which would you play ut4k, farcry on: the 8790 or the acer 1712?

I wasnt saying this system was a bad thing, just that it was a little weird thats all. And yes I know who this machine is aimed at but it doesnt make it any less of a bizzare system.

Adam, can i have your job? please? pretty please?

The 73 was the Botmatch, it actually got 128FPS in 1024X768. You can't tell I was posting in a hurry under high demand can you? =)

I'll post up the clock settings with some GPU overclocking, and maybe swap in some 400DDR RAM later today.

The unit weighed 14.8LBS NOT counting the AC power adapter and though I haven't looked very hard yet I haven't found a case that hold it.

It doesn't ship with any case? Is that normal?

The dead pixel policy only applies to the Acer. Sager has the 30 day money back no questions asked which Acer does not have. We've tried to get a no dead pixel policy with Sager, but the price hike would probably push most people away from being able to buy.

As far as which is best for gaming, I personally still choose the Sager 8790 mainly because of this higher FPS. The exhaust vent, AC power plug, and Audio jacks are on the right hand side of the Acer can bother right hand external mouse gamers but I wouldn't consider that point break. Both LCDs are great, but the Acer has more of a noticable uneven brightness (in streaks) which you can kind of see in the attached pic. All LCDs have this to some degree.

No, it does not come with a case standard and I would consider that pretty common. Many of the big names out there don't come standard with a carrying case.

Well I just bought an Acer 1712. If they give out commision on online orders Adam, you definately deserve this one.

I'm going to use it mainly for 3d graphics, video editing and a few games. This was the machine I was waiting for so I finally decided to throw my cash down. I'll post a review as well when I receive it.

They may have a NO DEAD PIXEL policy, but hell if I want to have to send it back.

Hey Adam, since acer failed to mention the 10/100/1000 lan and the removable video I was wondering if the 1712 also had serial ata connectors because the chipset supports it.

Thanks

Adam- do you know anything about the 1714

Sorry, no info on the 1714. I did look at the clocking though and default it's 350/580. I clocked it up to 400/650 and it ran:

3dmark01SE 12,955
3dmark03 3,463
Aquamark3 25,604
UT2K3 1024X768 155FPS
UT2K3 1600X1200 99FPS

I wouldn't push it much more than that.

I don't see any chance for SATA, but put in the request

What about upgrade, open purchesing stuff like a GPU for the unit?

Hi Adam,

in extremetech review is written that the "desktop version" standard clock for go5700 is 450/600.

Can you test it and increase only the core clock to see how it is compared to 9700 benchs ? And do you think that the cooler is able to manage well the heat or all goes to fire ???

A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO TEST AND TO KNOW !!!!!! :

In no where in the world is written if the 1712 motherboard/bios is actually error free to use the max HD of ATA100.

For me, I want add the Western Digital 250GB to this Acer, but I do not want know too late that the bios of the motherboard see only max 135 GB like some older bios version do.

So PLEASE Adam, can you see in some ways if the bios is able to see ALL the 250GB of an ATA100 HD ??
If you have one in your shop, can you put it inside for some seconds to see if the pc recognize all the free space or no over 135GB limit or can you ask it to your Acer's friends ??

This thing can give many problems to people like me that want upgrade the standard components of 1712, and you now are the ONLY person that can resolve this very big doubt for all of us.

THANKS 250Giga TIMES !!!

Adam,

I'm really looking hard at the Acer 1712. Is there any way to get PC3200 memory instead of the 2700? Seems like a bottle neck to me.

It uses desktop ram so it would probably be pretty cheap to upgrade.