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Old 03-26-2008, 12:30 PM   #1
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Second HDD on Satellite P200-V16(PSPB6E)?

There is an empty drawer for the second HDD. But is it really possible to add one?
And if yes, is there a raid controller making it possible to organize 2 HDD's into raid 0?
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Old 03-27-2008, 07:46 AM   #2
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http://de.computers.toshiba-europe.c...verLanguage=42

in german, but the description is in english detailing the set up etc ... give it a shot

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:13 AM   #3
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Well, may be I was not clear enough, but my question
adresses the possibility of hardware upgrade.
I.e. question 1 reformulated:
Are there SATA interface pins in the empty drawer,
permitting one to physically connect second HDD?

Question 2): If I can add second HDD at all,
can I configure both disks as raid 0?
In other words, is the raid controller physically present
on the motherboard of this specific model?
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:21 AM   #4
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. based on ur "PSPB6E" the link states the way to set up raid
. regarding ur "Are there SATA interface pins in the empty drawer,
permitting one to physically connect second HDD?" meaning that u dont have it in the comp that u currently have. Either u have it or u dont at delivery.

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Old 03-27-2008, 01:12 PM   #5
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. based on ur "PSPB6E" the link states the way to set up raid
The link just describes SATA RAID and AHCI controllers to which
the corresponding INTEL drivers are applicable. Well, of course, "PSPB6E"
has SATA AHCI controller in its motherboard (and the correspondiong driver
is installed). But the link says nothing about the real presence or absence of
the Raid controller as well. For this specific model. I suspect there is no
Raid controller here, which permits one to make the model a pair of dozens $$
cheaper. But I would like this to be confirmed (or refuted)
by somebody who really knows.
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. regarding ur "Are there SATA interface pins in the empty drawer,
permitting one to physically connect second HDD?" meaning that u dont have it in the comp that u currently have. Either u have it or u dont at delivery.
I do not know whether I have them or not.
I've never saw SATA pins before (only IDE).
And I would not like to disconnect the present HDD from its pins just
to see how they look like. Because I am not sure whether
I will not loose the 2 year's warranty in case I'll do this.
In an empty drawer there are 2 rows of male pins not connected to
anything and protected by kind of a transparent plastic cover.
But I do not know exactly what for they are.
That's why I am asking a knowledgeable person hoping to
get an informative answer instead of a tautological statement
that "either I have it or I dont at delivery".
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:17 PM   #6
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this is what the sata connector ("pins") look like:

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Old 03-28-2008, 06:07 AM   #7
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this is what the sata connector ("pins") look like:...
mucho thx for the informative pic

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Old 03-28-2008, 06:25 AM   #8
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The link just describes SATA RAID and AHCI controllers to which
the corresponding INTEL drivers are applicable. Well, of course, "PSPB6E"
has SATA AHCI controller in its motherboard (and the correspondiong driver
is installed). But the link says nothing about the real presence or absence of
the Raid controller as well.
of course not, my response never stated so!

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For this specific model. I suspect there is no
Raid controller here, which permits one to make the model a pair of dozens $$
cheaper. But I would like this to be confirmed (or refuted)
by somebody who really knows.
the P200 is generally described, the next clue was the PSPB6E generalisation. Not all models r available in all countries. It was probably helpful when u clearly stated where u bought the machine and a link referencing it

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..I've never saw SATA pins before (only IDE).
how would any know that u never saw one,unless u first stated it?

Quote:
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...And I would not like to disconnect the present HDD from its pins just
to see how they look like. Because I am not sure whether
I will not loose the 2 year's warranty in case I'll do this.
replacing/upgrading hard drive would not void any warranty.

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In an empty drawer there are 2 rows of male pins not connected to ...anything and protected by kind of a transparent plastic cover.
But I do not know exactly what for they are.
then chance is that u do have the place to install the 2nd drive for Raid (as in my statement "either u have it or u dont AT DELIVERY) .. may be i should have said that if "no connector" present then u have no mean to 2nd drive.

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That's why I am asking a knowledgeable person hoping to
get an informative answer instead of a tautological statement
that "either I have it or I dont at delivery".
hmmm, too bad u took it that way! (& a bit of ungratefulness) it was hard enough to pull out more info from OP (like pulling teeth) as it was
the other way around could be that one played with "dumb" query to trap people to be a fool of themselves. Inputs can only be good as queries that were being presented

& my "either I have it or I dont at delivery" statement still stands

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Old 03-28-2008, 10:33 AM   #9
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this is what the sata connector ("pins") look like:

Thanks for the picture! But now I'm really confused.
The picture of an empty drawer on my laptop looks exactly
as this one:
http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptop...te-p205-03.jpg
I.e. pins in this picture does not look like those in Your one.
So the question remains: what for are they?

On the other hand, on the same site I've found a more or less clear
picture of a SATA drive
http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptop...te-A105-04.jpg
where one sees a row of pins with the same 7/15 structure as pins
inside the empty drawer. So again I can not decide unambiguously
whether it is possible or not to add a second hdd to my laptop
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Meditating over the picture
http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptop...te-p205-03.jpg
I seemed to have found the answer. What I originally thought
as "pins" of SATA connector seems to be just contacts
on the back side of combined SATA (7)+power (15) connector.
And this contacts just connect SATA connector itself to the motherboard.
Am I right?

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Old 03-28-2008, 12:18 PM   #11
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replacing/upgrading hard drive would not void any warranty.
Thank You! This is really informative. In Toshiba's User's guide
the operation of RAM upgrade is described, but the operations of hdd
and/or DVD drive replacing are not described. So one could suspect
they are forbidden for users.

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hmmm, too bad u took it that way! (& a bit of ungratefulness) it was hard enough to pull out more info from OP (like pulling teeth) as it was
the other way around could be that one played with "dumb" query to trap people to be a fool of themselves. Inputs can only be good as queries that were being presented
I thought that my original questions were clear enough,
inspite of being too laconic, may be. The laptop model
was fixed practically unambiguously. OK, may be
it would be better were I cited the whole part number
PSPB6E-03D00QG3 instead of its first part only.
In any case the short name p200-16v is enough to
identify the model.

So my questions were quite unambigous and clear, imho.
And I was expecting the answers to be given to the questions
I've asked (is it possible to add a second hdd
&do there exists a raid controller in the given model?),
not for something I never asked for (what kind of
drivers are needed for the raid controller or how to install
these drivers).

In any case I apologize myself if You feel hurt by my ungratefulness


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& my "either I have it or I dont at delivery" statement still stands
Of course, tautologies like "A or not A" are always true, no
matter what "A" means
But they carry no information at all
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...In any case the short name p200-16v is enough to
identify the model.
ur OP = P200-V16!

p200-16v: u should have the capability to play with Raid

btw - no hurt taken from "any" ungratefulness

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Meditating over the picture
http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptop...te-p205-03.jpg
I seemed to have found the answer. What I originally thought
as "pins" of SATA connector seems to be just contacts
on the back side of combined SATA (7)+power (15) connector.
And this contacts just connect SATA connector itself to the motherboard.
Am I right?
That's what the SATA & power look like from the side. if you look end-on it looks like the picture I posted earlier (except that picture didn't show the power connector - which is the smaller set of "pins").

so, yes. you're right.
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