Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) Upgrade ... there's some aspect of hard drive power management that can quickly spin up and then spin down/park the hard drive in ...

Djembe · 05-01-2008, 05:03 PM

there's some aspect of hard drive power management that can quickly spin up and then spin down/park the hard drive in a notebook repeatedly over a short time. This rapidly increases the number of "load/unload cycles" for the hard drive and can lead to premature hard drive failure if left going for an extended period.

Seablade · 05-01-2008, 05:45 PM

Sounds like a standard power management feature actually, not necessarily a bug, but a choice to be made.

Seablade

drlouis · 05-03-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seablade

Sounds like a standard power management feature actually, not necessarily a bug, but a choice to be made.

Seablade

this one was a bug, it was discussed quite a bit a while back... I think Feisty Fawn was when/where it was discovered. Hard drives were failing faster than they should have. It would repeatedly park and unpark the drive like hundreds or thousands of times in rapid succession. (I forget exactly what the deal was)

Edit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...ort/+bug/59695

DarqHelmet · 05-04-2008, 12:14 AM

So I just downloaded the DVD.iso when are they going to dump i386?

Djembe · 05-04-2008, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarqWang

So I just downloaded the DVD.iso when are they going to dump i386?

they're not the only OS that hasn't gotten rid of 386. When I updated Windows XP to SP3, it installed to an i386 folder

DarqHelmet · 05-04-2008, 10:25 PM

And I hate windows. I want Kubuntu in i686

drlouis · 05-06-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarqWang

And I hate windows. I want Kubuntu in i686

then download it.

http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/k...nate-amd64.iso

from here: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/kubuntu/hardy/

Djembe · 05-04-2008, 11:09 PM

design your own OS and you can make it however you'd like.

Seablade · 05-04-2008, 11:16 PM

Linux from scratch!

Seablade

Not quite that masochistic

Djembe · 05-04-2008, 11:22 PM

I've considered that myself, but I don't have the patience to wait while my computer compiles everything, especially because I don't know if I'll need to take note of some particular message halfway through that I might miss which would cause me to wreck everything.

YankeeDeuce · 05-06-2008, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djembe

I've considered that myself, but I don't have the patience to wait while my computer compiles everything, especially because I don't know if I'll need to take note of some particular message halfway through that I might miss which would cause me to wreck everything.

That's what Arch is for

Seablade · 05-04-2008, 11:27 PM

Heh strangely that is why many people steer away from Gentoo. Then again I just emerge a set of packages before I go to sleep and come back in the morning

Seablade

Djembe · 05-04-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seablade

Heh strangely that is why many people steer away from Gentoo. Then again I just emerge a set of packages before I go to sleep and come back in the morning

Seablade

I've done similar things to that for long processes only to come back in 8 hours to find that something got stuck after 45 minutes and it's been sitting there stuck since then.

Seablade · 05-05-2008, 10:27 AM

Ahh that usually only happens in my experiences with testing/unstable packages. Generally the only time I am emerging something that takes several hours, it is a stable package that is part of my base system. X11/Qt/GTK/etc. all in one. I then start on unstable etc. but usually if those take more than 15 minutes something is very wrong

Course that was all on single core, now that I think everything in my house is at least dual-core or better it will likely only improve.

Seablade

GbrilliantQ™ · 05-06-2008, 03:57 AM

hi yankee

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Djembe drum while you work Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: online Posts: 22,895 Reviews: 5 Benchmarks: 50 Credits: 138,924	I've considered that myself, but I don't have the patience to wait while my computer compiles everything, especially because I don't know if I'll need to take note of some particular message halfway through that I might miss which would cause me to wreck everything. __________________ Notebook Forums Moderator & Administrator 590 bans and counting...

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05-01-2008, 05:45 PM	#2
Seablade Dont Ask Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Somewhere in the US Posts: 3,592 Credits: 51,115	Sounds like a standard power management feature actually, not necessarily a bug, but a choice to be made. Seablade

05-04-2008, 12:14 AM	#4
DarqHelmet In fact I am "That Guy" Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37,751 Credits: 144	So I just downloaded the DVD.iso when are they going to dump i386?

05-04-2008, 10:25 PM	#6
DarqHelmet In fact I am "That Guy" Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 37,751 Credits: 144	And I hate windows. I want Kubuntu in i686

05-04-2008, 11:16 PM	#9
Seablade Dont Ask Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Somewhere in the US Posts: 3,592 Credits: 51,115	Linux from scratch! Seablade Not quite that masochistic

05-04-2008, 11:27 PM	#12
Seablade Dont Ask Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Somewhere in the US Posts: 3,592 Credits: 51,115	Heh strangely that is why many people steer away from Gentoo. Then again I just emerge a set of packages before I go to sleep and come back in the morning Seablade

05-05-2008, 10:27 AM	#14
Seablade Dont Ask Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Somewhere in the US Posts: 3,592 Credits: 51,115	Ahh that usually only happens in my experiences with testing/unstable packages. Generally the only time I am emerging something that takes several hours, it is a stable package that is part of my base system. X11/Qt/GTK/etc. all in one. I then start on unstable etc. but usually if those take more than 15 minutes something is very wrong Course that was all on single core, now that I think everything in my house is at least dual-core or better it will likely only improve. Seablade