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Old 11-06-2009, 08:51 PM   #16
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So glad i made the switch over to SSD trimming takes minutes compared to the hours of defraging.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:40 PM   #17
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So glad i made the switch over to SSD trimming takes minutes compared to the hours of defraging.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:35 AM   #18
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Do we really want to defrag SSD? What i heard and read so far is that this defrag process can be very detrimental to SSDs.

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So glad i made the switch over to SSD trimming takes minutes compared to the hours of defraging.
trim is automatic which makes it so great.

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Do we really want to defrag SSD? What i heard and read so far is that this defrag process can be very detrimental to SSDs.

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That's why I said defrag is sooo 2005. The extra writes caused by the defrag process will cause the SSDs performance to degrade. That's why a trim or garbage collection process is necessary.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:29 AM   #20
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trim is automatic which makes it so great.



That's why I said defrag is sooo 2005. The extra writes caused by the defrag process will cause the SSDs performance to degrade. That's why a trim or garbage collection process is necessary.
I tend to agree with SSDs about forgetting the defrag on them. But for other HDD types, defrag still play an important role, albeit not overdoing it.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:50 AM   #21
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So does Win 7 Automatically do TRIM on a SSD drive ?
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:04 AM   #22
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Windows 7 would (always) send a TRIM command to SSDs, but it is up to them to support it via their own firmware.

Windows 7 can verify if SSD is present, then disable defragmentation for that drive.

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If the hardware controller reports a rotational speed to Win 7 or if you are not using the Win 7 ata controller driver it will not send trim commands.
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