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Old 07-18-2004, 12:43 AM   #16
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You weren't lieing when you said that screen is glossy. I saw a similar model at Fry's today (very nice might i add) and that thing was almost like a mirror. Seems to add to that great build in my opinion, looks tougher.
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Old 07-18-2004, 01:13 AM   #17
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Uh oh ...if the screen is mirror-like glossy, I might have to pass on the 6210. I tried HP's ZD7000 and its high-gloss screen was a big turn-off for me. It, too, felt like I was looking in a mirror and it drove me nuts. This really throws my decision a major curve ball.
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Old 07-18-2004, 04:29 PM   #18
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The glossiness is only a major factor if you're working outside in broad daylight. Even then, you won't notice it unless you're at an odd angle, or looking for it. I haven't had much time to use it outside, so I'm not really sure. Indoors its not a problem, unless you're sitting in front of a very bright light at the same level you are.

Think of it like using a CRT. Its somewhat similar.


As for the sturdiness, I started intensionally looking for weaknesses, since you guys were asking. The keyboard feels fine to me, generally. On the left side of the space bar it has an odd clicking thing and feels lighter than the other keys. If I press hard down on any key, the keyboard will "flex". But I'm sure if I press down on any laptop keyboard it will flex to a degree.

I was carrying it around the other day, just the laptop, and I notice the screen build was kind of thin. It almost felt a little hollow.

Anyways, those are the only negatives I can see about the build so far. Otherwise, its been perfectly fine. In fact, these couple of factors don't bother me much at all. You guys just wanted to know about it, so I looked for them :P


I've been using this laptop for more than half a week now. Its been wonderful. Fan only comes on when I come back from standby or when I boot, and that's only for a second or two. During normal use, I don't hear the fan at all. One issue, though, is when the fan runs at medium speed, I hear a sort of rattling sound. I don't knwo if that's normal or not. I'm going to email Ivan @ portableone about it.

Battery life is as advertised. I haven't done much stress testing of the system, but just surfing the web and whatnot, I get the 4-5 hours as advertised off the built in battery. I'm considering getting the secondary battery in the future. 9 hours of life (advertised)... that would be great! Its a bit expensive, though, so I may wait a while until I can justify spending another 150$ or so :P

charge time isn't too bad. I would say a couple hours for a full charge... although I haven't taken a watch to it or anything.

Loading programs is nice and speedy, no complaints.

Wireless is strong (or so I percieve). I have two unpassworded connections that touch my house that I assume are my neighbors. I can connect to both, although one is stronger than the other. If I keep my wireless on, it seems that the instant I unplug, I'm on my neighbors network :P Its convenient if I feel like sending an email from downstairs (unaccessable by my wire) really quickly
While I was on there once, I decided to do a quick bandwidth test:

got some nice results


Anyways, I'll report back with more stuff later, once I get to use the laptop more. I have yet to try the sound much, nor DVD playback.

If I have time, I'll try to take some pictures of the glossiness and see if those will represent what I see

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Old 07-19-2004, 10:45 AM   #19
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It'd be great if you could post a few more pics of your screen, Ender. The two screen pics in your review didn't seem to show any glare, so I was surprised when someone mentioned the hi-gloss/glare factor. I was all set to pull the trigger on a S6210 before I read that.
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:47 PM   #20
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alright. I'll do it when I get home today from work (around 6pm PST) when the sun hasn't set yet Any specific environments to check? I'll do a couple shots outside, then a few inside with a bright light behind me. then a few in normal working conditions. I'll do some with a completely black screen (Where the glare is evident) and a few with programs running.
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:57 PM   #21
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Sounds perfect! Thanks lots!!!

I've e-mailed with Patrick at Portable One. He said their next shipment of S6210 notebooks is due by the 30th.
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Old 07-19-2004, 03:28 PM   #22
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Is there a higher-capacity battery for the lifebook S series or is the 47.5 whr battery the only main battery offered?
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Old 07-19-2004, 09:15 PM   #23
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While poking around, I did not see any higher capacity batteries. I wasn't looking for them, though, so maybe there are!

Anyways, so I went and took some pictures. As a disclaimer before I post these pictures and you're horribly disgusted and never consider Fujitsu again, the camera comes close, but does not accurately represent real life It focuses on the reflection in the screen, so it shows up sharper. Generally the reflections are less noticable then the pictures make them out to be.

Also, I am happy with the screen. I have used it in a variety of conditions, sometimes in the daylight in the car. I have not had a problem with glare at ALL. I only notice it if I look for it.

Anyways, without much more fujitsu defending, here's the pictures. I tried to take one of a black and one of a white screen to show the difference.

This is a shot of the worst case scenario indoors. A very bright background compared to the rest of the room, right behind your screen:






Here is a pic in a very bright room (lit by daylight):





here is the worst case scenario. outdoors where everything is bright :P





inside in a normally lit room (still daylight, but the sun is setting :P)




inside a darker room







sorry for some blurry pictures. I did not use flash and I was too lazy to use the tripod.

as you can see, in normal conditions its not very noticable. Even outdoors in bright daylight, if the screen isn't pure black, its not as noticeable.

If you want any more "scenarios" don't hesitate to ask. I'll try when its day again :P
I wish these pictures were more of a representative of real life so you can really see, but this is as good as I can get
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Old 07-20-2004, 02:25 AM   #24
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That's a nice extensive range of photos. Although it does qualify as "glossy" I think Fujitsu has done a good job with the anti-reflective coating. The screen quality is definitely worth the slight tradeoff of some glare in extreme lighting situations.

If you haven't seen it, Freeman from the LeoG forum has a short review of the 6210 on his site. It has some nice, big close ups of the screen (click on the intermediate photos for the BIG shots).

http://www.jotographer.com/S6210/index.htm

Review here:

http://www.jotographer.com/
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Old 07-20-2004, 04:55 AM   #25
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Those pictures are great! I plan to use my notebook outdoors at the lake a lot, so the glare is definitely something I have to consider. Thanks for taking the time to post these photos!!
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How is the speaker(s?) or just sound quality in general? Have you tried to play DVDs on it yet? That is the only thing I plan on using the onboard sound for so it doesn't have to be great- I don't expect much from a "thin-and-light" but volume is a bit of an issue...
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:41 PM   #27
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haven't tried the speakers for anything but beeps Headphone quality is fine. I'll try speakers a bit later today. its about time I tried some DVD testing :P
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Thanks, that would be greatly appreciated. Also what are the differences from the s6210 and the s6220? On the Fujitsu site it appears that they are identical except for the processor. Is this true? The s7000 series is out why is there no where near the hype for this series as there is for the s6210? Is the s7000 series a bigger unit? is it Faster?

(sorry for so many questions but I'm curious)

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Old 07-22-2004, 01:49 AM   #29
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to my knowledge the 6220 is simply 6210 with a Dothan processor. so yes, only proc difference.

I was checking out the sound. It gets pretty loud. I could hear from pretty far. Do you want me to measure the distance? :P quality is laptop quality. Like, lack of bass. Any sort of test you want me to do?
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There really aren't any tests that I can think of. Unfortunately, without other laptops to compare it to, there is no real way to measure how it stands up against the competition. I suppose that as long as you have no complaints, it's not "bad" and if it's not "bad", I can live with it. I'm not too demanding but I just don't want it to not be lound enough to fill a car or maybe a small room and get distorted when you try to turn it up to an audible level.

Do you know what the advantages of the Dothan are? The Banias has the same clock speeds and the same cache (I think). So why buy a s6000 series instead of a s7000? Is there tha much a price differance? I know you're not a Fujitsu spokesperson but any bits of information would help... thanks again for checking out the sound...
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