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Old 05-30-2003, 10:59 AM   #106
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lol I understand heath

The Sager drivers are the Catalyst 3.2's - I installed them today and I checked the version in dxdiag...

Unless you want to try out the 3.4's which are causing problems on 128MB Radeon 9000 systems...

the drivers on the sager website are 6307 now - try them out...
That is from today. The drivers come from Sager's official web site.
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Old 05-30-2003, 11:01 AM   #107
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What makes you believe that what Sager's got posted are "mobility" drivers
Find the CX_nnnnn.INF file in your extracted drivers download (CX used for XP, C2 used for Win2K). Edit this file in Notepad and browse the info, particularly for M9 references for Mobility 9000.

Having said that, I think the Sager Video download link is SERIOUSLY FLAWED. I myself have gotten different drivers (3.1, 3.2, and just now I think 3.1 again!) from the very same link several times in the last 3 months and have posted about it. I think the other posts about the drivers "changing" is a similar situation. At the very least, Sager should include the alleged version in the description of the download page. If they are not purposely switching versions back and forth, as it appears from our downloads, they should check whatever sort of load balancing and data links their web site is using and prevent us from getting different versions within a few hours or minutes of each other's download. As I mentioned, I think I just now downloaded Cat 3.1 instead of 3.2. I'd appreciate it if Adam or someone from PC Torque could work with Sager to verify we are getting some consistency in downloads.

Finally, I'd rather stick with the Sager drivers that are at least INTENDED or SUPPOSED to be tuned for our laptops, but these high-powered and high-priced machines certainly deserve some graphics stability.

EDIT: My newly downloaded INF file says:
DriverVer=11/07/2002, 6.13.10.6218
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Old 05-30-2003, 06:16 PM   #108
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Having said that, I think the Sager Video download link is SERIOUSLY FLAWED
I think so too...

Last evening I got the Cat 3.2's and this morning I got the 6218 drivers!?!? Hello?? anyone home??

This is weird...must be some sort of server error...

Someone msg Sager on this - I am composing an email right now...
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Old 05-31-2003, 04:23 AM   #109
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I wish they would stop changing drivers all the time.
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Old 05-31-2003, 12:54 PM   #110
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It sounds like your CD's come with DX9.0a as default which I think is a stinker from Microsoft - pushing forward an underprepared and erroneous software...

Try to get a retail XP-Pro and make sure it has DX8.1 on it...I dunno how you will make sure but check the date on the box - if it is prior to or just after DX9.0 was released then it should have DX8.1 only...

stinker microsoft...stinker microsoft...

BTW - I got the 6 months eval copy of Microsoft Windows 2003 Server Operating System...anyone have a use for this OS?? I sure dont lol
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Old 05-31-2003, 01:07 PM   #111
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This may or may not be relevant to everyone here, but I thought I'd mention it. While using the catalyst 3.2 and 3.4 drivers, I can't convert my DiVX videos to VCD-compliant MPG files. I use TMPGEnc to do the converting, and within a few seconds of starting I get an error and the program quits.

I have to revert my video driver to whatever was before catalyst 3.2, as I was converting videos successfully when I first got my 8887. I'll have a go at it today and let you all know if it works
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Old 05-31-2003, 01:10 PM   #112
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...a link to a "how to" on doing a clean install from the XP Home CD that came with my machine.
Go to this post.

Skip the steps on doing the BIOS updates.
Don't skip the steps on doing a fresh install from the XP CD that came with the machine.

Good luck!
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Old 05-31-2003, 04:32 PM   #113
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tdd, thanks for the info and links! I will give those a try before I do anything else today.

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Old 06-01-2003, 07:30 PM   #114
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Got the DivX-to-MPG conversion working!

Thankfully, the problem wasn't the Catalyst drivers at all. I went back to an older version of TMPGEnc and it worked for converting the videos. So I didn't have to touch my video drivers this weekend! After all the trouble I went through last Friday trying to solve this problem... GRRrrrummbleMummblemmm....

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ATI CAT 3.4

Hello all, I just installed the CAT 3.4 drivers from ATI on my NP-8887 using the MOD tool. The install went well and I can now play C&C Generals without one single lockup. The 3Dmark2001SE also completes the tests, even the bump mapping test with no lockups. I still have HT enabled and am using DX9.0a. The computer now boots up in 640x480 mode which is pretty annoyiong, there was no bubble advising me to click to improve resolution. Seems so close to working perfectly. Any ideas out there?
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Old 06-02-2003, 11:19 AM   #116
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Per my posts around page 13 in this thread:

Get MultiRes from here.

4. MultiRes is a SysTray app from which you can do a quick change, like the ATI app or many others, BUT.....
5. MultiRes also has a res change command line capability, and, since it's in the registry to run on start up .....
6. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
7. Set MultiRest to look like this: "MultiRes"="C:\\Program Files\\MultiRes\\MultiRes.exe /1600,1200,32", or whatever your res preference is.
8. There's a MultiRes help file in Start\Programs for further info.
9. The PC will reboot to 640x480, then after signon and running the app from the registry it will dynamically change to your preference.

Works for me.
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Thanks, MrMsyvc. I'll give it a try.
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I just wanted to report on a new driver I tried:

http://www.s-seven.net/ati/

A lot of people know s-seven as the mobility video card modifiers. Anyways, the guy at s-seven has released his version of Cat 3.4, specifically for the M9. I downloaded it, installed it, and restarted. To my satisfaction, my Sager rebooted at its normal 1600 X 1200 resolution....not the 640 X 480 resolution I and so many other people have been having problems with. I also tested out a 3D intense game, Enter the Matrix, and it worked fine. Unfortuantly, when I rebooted a second time, it went back to 640 X 480.
I think I let my hopes up too quick.
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I just wanted to report on a new driver I tried:

http://www.s-seven.net/ati/

A lot of people know s-seven as the mobility video card modifiers. Anyways, the guy at s-seven has released his version of Cat 3.4, specifically for the M9. I downloaded it, installed it, and restarted. To my satisfaction, my Sager rebooted at its normal 1600 X 1200 resolution....not the 640 X 480 resolution I and so many other people have been having problems with. I also tested out a 3D intense game, Enter the Matrix, and it worked fine. Unfortuantly, when I rebooted a second time, it went back to 640 X 480.
I think I let my hopes up too quick.
Just tried installing those drivers... Unfortunately I was back to 640 X 480 resolution after a couple of reboots
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I've been successfully getting a dynamic reset many times a day by using the MultiRes utility for over a week now. See my details here. Skip the extraction from Omegacorner drivers and go straight to the MultiRes site I linked here.

Speaking of Omegacorner, I was wondering who's getting the most bang for the (free) buck out of the different 3.4 drivers? Most of the modders like S-Seven just added device IDs to allow the install of 3.4s on M9. Omegacorner actually tweaked the settings also. His ATI Control Panel had a screen rotation feature, which is actually only really useful, I think, if you have a rotating CRT, but his drivers also totally disabled APG Texture Acceleration in Dxdiag. I don't know the effect of that. Any thoughts?

At the moment I'm using ATI's own 3.4's, modded for M9 using Driverheaven/Patje Mobility Modder, and ATI's Control Panel. I've also fallen back DX9 to DX8, using a home-grown restore utility I found on the Net, but that was a bit of a hack as it had some flaws. It wanted to use extract.exe, but XP only has extrac32.exe, some files were missing, and the rundll32 on the INF for registry settings wouldn't work, so I ran a right-click install on the INF manually. All my utils say I have DX8.1 now. My gaming experience and performance is so-so, in my novice-intermediate opinion. But it's a life's quest, isn't it?
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