Sager told me to install the video driver for model NP5670 on my 8887. Upon receipt of their email, I had just turned off HT and did a fresh WINXP Home OS install using the original drivers that came with my system with DX 8.1 installed. Now 3DMark2001SE tests at 7319 without lockup, and my screen resolution retains my settings. 3DMark results show a bit of a performance drop as my score was 7743 with DX9, HT enabled, and the CAT3.4 drivers off the ATI website, just wouldn't retain screen res pref. Seems stable so far though. Haven't tried the drivers Sager suggested yet, as I plan to take gsferrari's suggestion to stick with the orig drivers a few weeks to check system stability. Thanks GS!
Hope this helps... Here is the email from Sager FYI.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Zhang [mailto:Allen@sagernotebook.com]
Sent: June 02, 2003 19:28
Subject: FW: 452940 8887

Dear Sir, please download the video driver for model NP5670 from www.sagernotebook.com. Then remove the installed ATI video driver. Restart computer and run setup to install the downloaded version.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Liu [mailtoavid@Sagernotebook.com]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:49 AM
To: allen
Subject: FW: 452940 8887

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:10 AM
To: websupport@sagernotebook.com
Subject: Sager 8887

Hi,

I just purchased the Sager 8887 from PCTORQUE with the mobility Radeon 9000 video card and am experiencing problems. The Radeon CAT 3.2 drivers cause my system to lock up when testing via 3DMark2001 SE, however with CAT 3.4 drivers installed I am able to successfully test with 3DMark but my resolution reverts to 640X480 upon reboot. Many of us are experiencing similar problems with the same system IE: http://sagerforums.com/showthread.ph...5&pagenumber=1

Please advise. Below are my system specs
Thank You,
Douglas

70 Sager 8887-V Notebook: 8887-V
767 Display: 16.1" UXGA LCD (1600 x 1200)
724 Color: Standard Black
757 Video: Radeon 9000 128MB DDR
476 RAM: 1024MB PC2100 (2 DIMMs 512MB each)
729 Main Hard Drive: 60GB
683 Bay 1 Media Drive: 8X DVD/24X10X24
CDRW Combo Drive
732 Bay 2 Hard Drive: 60GB
372 Bay 2 Media Drive: No
470 Bay 3 TV Tuner/Hard Drive: NTSC TV
Tuner and Remote
350 Modem: 56K V.90
351 Network Card: 10/100 NIC
352 Operating System: Windows XPHome

REF: "Sager told me to install the video driver for model NP5670 on my 8887. "

I downloaded them and looked in the INF file. It says "DriverVer=02/28/2003, 6.14.01.6307", which I believe are the Cat 3.2s. The Cat 3.4s are 6.14.10.6343. Oh well.

Why is it ati cant make a damn driver installer that works?
while all this damned messin around.

Bunch of stuff, in'nit? I'm currently running a 3.4 set I found called Neutral Catalyst, from an Italian site. I expected the tabs to be in Italian, as advertised, but they came out in English. I got the Rotation feature back that I had with the Omegacorner drivers. There are more tabs and settings than I frankly know what to do with, though someone kindly posted an info link earlier in this thread. The drivers also came with a RadTabs utility that adds a DirectX tab and another OpenGL tab to the ATI Control Panel. I can't get the RadOverclocker or RadLinker utilities to install. Some problem with the RadProbe.sys. RadLinker sounds neat because you can setup a graphics profile specific to a game EXE and it loads those settings when you execute the game. Anyway, I'm up and running. Still using the MultiRes command line to auto-reset my res on bootup (see earlier post). As long as I can keep gaming OK I'll stick with this for now. Other than games, the beast runs like a charm.

MrMsyvc

Looks like the RadOverclocker and RadLinker utilities for the Netural Cat 3.4 are fixed. I just downloaded and am gonna give it a try. Thanks for the info. Below is the lastest info on the NeutCat w/link.

NEW UPLOAD:Finally today i had the Neutral Catalyst ATIPOWER pack v2.0.3.3 fixed from Luciferl.
RadLinker is now working
added RefreshLock 2.02 utility
The link to download it remains the same

http://www.ciberware.net/contenuti/s....php?IdArt=174

Are available to download the new Neutral Catalyst ATIPOWER pack v2.0.3.3.
based on 3rd party driver 7.83 (released by Comodo, Gigabyte....)
on r7000 and 7500, when play warcraft3, display shown black screen; fixed
added 1280x768 resolution
added Mobility and IGP only on Win 2k/Xp (Radeon mobility 7500, 7500GL, 9000, 9000GL, 320/340IGP)
Updated release of RadTabs, RadLinker e RadClocker to the latest versions

Cool! Let us know how it goes. I don't know about OC'ing this hot puppy, but the RadLinker sounds interesting for configuring game EXEs. I'm going to give it a shot this evening.

I just installed the 3.4's on my desktop for the 9800 and found something interesting. The 3d benchmarks are considerably lower.

I also installed the modded 3.4's on my sager 5670, but didn't get a chance to run a benchmark before the upgrade. Anyway, I was wodering if anyone noticed a downgrade in perf. after installing the 3.4's.

I don't know if I really care, cus planetside actually works now


FooFighter

I'm wondering if those are really 3.4s you got. After you install them, run DXDIAG and from the Display tab and tell me what you have on the right in the Drivers box for Version:. I have Version: 6.14.10.6343 (English). I believe 6343 is Cat3.4, 6307 is Cat3.2, and 6292 is Cat3.1. (I think ATI skipped Cat3.3.)

Foofighter: Did you get your 3.4s from the link from FrostNads? Did your RadLinker and RadOverclocker install and appears to work? If both these work, you're ahead of me!

By the way, this is the main link for the Neutral Catalyst site. You'll see in the middle of the page is a link for "...pack v.2.2.0.1 based on Catalyst 3.4....". On the left of the page, if you click on the Drivers link under Files, you go to a list of drivers that includes "...Neutral ATIpower Pack v 2.0.3.3 6292 7.83 3rd party...". Admittedly, it's a bit confusing without dates to go with it all. If you have older drivers, it may also be why benchmarks are lower but games are working. Some of the older drivers are more stable. Good thing we're computerized!

Lemme know what you have Frostnads. Thanks.

6.14.0010.6434
Date: 4/28/2003

I checked this after install, but I just checked again to make sure. Looks like the new drivers are there. I didnt' install the powerpack from nuetral, I just grabbed the drivers off of ati's site. I will go grab that powerpack now tho. Does it say something about 400mhz default OC? Or am I nuts?

Anyway, benchmarks are definitely lower with the new drivers, but I keep reading on other sites how the new drivers add significant FPS. But I dont know what the hell im talking about anyway.


FooFighter

It was an old Powerpack and installed 6.14.10.6292 CAT 3.1 drivers. Think I'll try the direct link you provided after I repartition and load the OS again. My Drive Image 2002 just arrived, so life is about to get a little easier..... Thanks for the clues MrMsyvc.

I admit I thought it odd when gsferrari was awesome enough to help me, said "I did an OS for the first time when I got my 5660 and since then I've done about 3 dozen reinstalls just for fun" old thread

However now, I am beginning to understand. I'm having a blast....

Just remember, I've installed the Neutral Cat3.4s and the RadOverclocker does NOT install and RadLinker does NOT function. There's a problem with the RadProbe.sys. I've found a few indecipherable references on the Net, but no fixes. That's why I was wondering if you got them to work with the old Neutral Cat3.2. Perhaps the files could be copied or cloned or installed seperately. Did you get OC or Linker to install or work?

Speaking of FPS, Frost or Foo, either of you know how I measure it during game play? I see talk about it so there must be a utility. I have Sandra free download. Something there or something else? Thanks.

RadOverclocker utility installed but will not run, and RadLinker didn't install at all. Too bad, cause I really like the idea behind RadLinker.

Nope, I have only tested FPS using 3DMark from madonion.com. I also would like to know of a utility to test during actual gameplay...

Well, I installed the 3.4 powerpack and my FPS are back up, pretty much. I still can't get them back to what I installed off the ATI cd. Weird. I could not get the RADoverlocker or radlinker to install.
I don't know any program that logs your FPS during gameplay, but there must be one out there. I would like to have that.

FooFighter

Thanks for the updates y'all.

Has anyone installed these yet? Look pretty cool. I have read good things about them. Anyway, let me know how you guys fare with these. I wanna know if the overclocker utility works.

Fhttp://www.omegacorner.com/



FooFighter