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Old 11-20-2004, 10:16 PM   #31
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Good question

Glad to hear your not liveing in a volcano some where syn. Here let the family have a banana also what is the highest temp we should let these run at luke when I get mine am I going to be needing to keep a really close eye on the temp ?
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Old 11-20-2004, 10:21 PM   #32
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I keep Mobmeter up on it.. right now im only surfing and chating and its at 48C.. Gaming is about 62C ..I'd worry if it was hitting 70C heh.. but I dont know what the max is.. someone else might can answer that one..
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Old 11-20-2004, 10:23 PM   #33
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Thanks Syn

where did you get Mobmeter or did it come with the lappy? I will want to keep it running guess if it starts getting to hot I will just have to give in and turn my heat off this winter. and start wearing multilayers of clothing LOL.
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Old 11-20-2004, 10:57 PM   #34
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I did a search for it on the boards here til I found a link for it...Its a good program.. I have my little case full of useful programs... heh..
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Old 11-20-2004, 11:09 PM   #35
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Syn: In your footer you are posting your overclocked benchmarks. Are you always running it overclocked in games? Was it overclocked when you ran FarCry and got 90-100 FPS outdoors. At stock settings I don't get anywhere near that result but our stock benchmarks weren't that far apart. However, I'm using the console command to display FPS and not the program you mentioned in your prior email - Fraps or Frag or something? Possibly a difference? I don't know. Also, you said you were at native resolution, what exactly is that so I can more accurately compare. Maybe I've set my resolution too high. Thanks
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Many on desktop and using a Nvidia 6800 are having major stuttering issues running EQ2.. Both our desktops were having the stuttering jumping issue.. then there were others that ran it just fine. After alot of research it seems it might be an Nvidia issue with old chipsets.. when some people bought a new motherboard they ended up running the game fine... Needless to say with so many complaints about EQ2 and the 6800 I was almost ready to put getting this on hold til the ATI card was released. Anyone considering playing EQ2 with this unit, have no fear.. it runs it fine on high settings.. I went to high performance for some areas like graystone where you get 1fps..but this machine handles it just fine.. CPU usage was about 50% on my desktop P4 2.6 it was 90% to 100% usuage... I know everyone's going on about HL2 but I really believe EQ2 is one of the most demanding games out there...


Much like the stuttering you were talking about on the Desktop cards, I get it here and there with a 6800Ultra.....

I have not come to a conclusion for a "real" answer yet.... But so far, 66.93 Nvidia drivers seem to do the trick...
They have lowered my overall benchmark scores, but have done a nice job of getting EQ2 to play "almost" worry free at 1920x1200 on High Settings.... (and 2xAA 8xAF in the Nvidia Control Panel) ...

For PCI Express Cards such as the ones in the Sager, go for the latest and greatest drivers.... They seem to help a bit - Of course my issues go beyond just video... (Long story about a 600mhz boost to my CPU :P)



PS: Oh yeah, the little "Hobbit Holes" in Baubbleshire (sp.!? Reference to picture) It cracks me up going around there and listening to the NPCs.... Zoom your camera all the way out when you enter one of the buildings there Syn... Watching your character nearly decapitate themselves to get into a building is entertaining... - I completed the Qeynos quest, and now I'm bored to tears with the game.. How are you liking it?

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Old 11-21-2004, 12:37 AM   #37
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Syn: In your footer you are posting your overclocked benchmarks. Are you always running it overclocked in games? Was it overclocked when you ran FarCry and got 90-100 FPS outdoors. At stock settings I don't get anywhere near that result but our stock benchmarks weren't that far apart. However, I'm using the console command to display FPS and not the program you mentioned in your prior email - Fraps or Frag or something? Possibly a difference? I don't know. Also, you said you were at native resolution, what exactly is that so I can more accurately compare. Maybe I've set my resolution too high. Thanks
Flats Im thinking the results were when the card was over clocked. After I did my last highest bench then I ran the games.. by the way..this card comes clocked at 250/600 but if you unlock forceware, its says the optimize setting is 300/699 heck of a difference.. so thats what im running it at now. But for Far cry im pretty sure it was overclocked at 344/699 or whatever it was I had it clocked at at the time heh.. I don't run it overclocked..overclocking really is for when you need the extra boost.. Right now it handles everything just fine. God I love this machine..have I said that enough? lol

Oh I was using Fraps... Native is the native screen res of 1600/1050...
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:46 AM   #38
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Much like the stuttering you were talking about on the Desktop cards, I get it here and there with a 6800Ultra.....

I have not come to a conclusion for a "real" answer yet.... But so far, 66.93 Nvidia drivers seem to do the trick...
They have lowered my overall benchmark scores, but have done a nice job of getting EQ2 to play "almost" worry free at 1920x1200 on High Settings.... (and 2xAA 8xAF in the Nvidia Control Panel) ...

For PCI Express Cards such as the ones in the Sager, go for the latest and greatest drivers.... They seem to help a bit - Of course my issues go beyond just video... (Long story about a 600mhz boost to my CPU :P)



PS: Oh yeah, the little "Hobbit Holes" in Baubbleshire (sp.!? Reference to picture) It cracks me up going around there and listening to the NPCs.... Zoom your camera all the way out when you enter one of the buildings there Syn... Watching your character nearly decapitate themselves to get into a building is entertaining... - I completed the Qeynos quest, and now I'm bored to tears with the game.. How are you liking it?
Tried the new drivers. Now this is my desktop and my husbands..we both have nearly the same set up. He has a huge memory leak with that game. There are hundreds of posts on the eq2 boards over the 6800 and the stuttering issue... people have tried everything, turning off HT, which my desktop doesn't have.. turning off agp fast write..which I dont have in my bios heh.. bunch of other things.. nothings really working.. Then a couple people bought brand new motherboards..especially the ones with the Nvidia chipset and they now play it smoothly. My husband was skeptical about this laptop but after he saw how it performed he's rebuilding his desktop with a AMD64...now he wants to play EQ2 on my laptop..this thing is great.. Im happy to say I haven't had any of those issues everyone else has been having with their desktops..
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:04 AM   #39
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I should have mentioned im running EQ at native Res.. didn't even realize it myself.. Im doing balanced with shadows on and it looks just amazing... The game does have a memory leak though..It just took longer for me to notice because I have more ram on the laptop then the desktop.. EQ is suppose to be working on this though.. AL im not bored at all.. I dont play constantly though im a mulit tasking person and the P4 HT is fitting that need very well..
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:29 AM   #40
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I need to do another day of Temps.. the AS5 may be really starting to take effect or I had just really stressed the system that first day..but after 3 hours of EQ2 tonight it neve went past 57C .. Tomorrow i'll pay better attention to the temps. This is also with a clock of 299/699..
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:52 AM   #41
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Flats Im thinking the results were when the card was over clocked. After I did my last highest bench then I ran the games.. by the way..this card comes clocked at 250/600 but if you unlock forceware, its says the optimize setting is 300/699 heck of a difference.. so thats what im running it at now. But for Far cry im pretty sure it was overclocked at 344/699 or whatever it was I had it clocked at at the time heh.. I don't run it overclocked..overclocking really is for when you need the extra boost.. Right now it handles everything just fine. God I love this machine..have I said that enough? lol

Oh I was using Fraps... Native is the native screen res of 1600/1050...
If the optimized setting for the card is 300/699, why is it set for 250/600? Any worries about damaging the card by consistently running it at a higher clockspeed than default settings? I don't have the ability to monitor temperature (where I'm at I don't have the ability to download any software). Thanks for all your posts.
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:10 AM   #42
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Thanks for all the great pics Syn! Especially the side by side documents, you've convinced me that a WSXGA is just perfect for my needs. Thought I'd have to go WUXGA for a while...

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Old 11-21-2004, 08:54 AM   #43
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Just poking through your review and thought I would through in a correction. The top is brushed aluminum. Sager used 2 layers of protective coat on the lid of this beast on thin and one thick. You pulled off the thin layer and didn't think about the second. Find one of the corners and peel it up and see the purdy metal under it .
I'm leaving the plastic cover on until it starts to peel
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.... the AS5 may be really starting to take effect or I had just really stressed the system that first day....
I think it takes at least 72 hours before AS5 reaches the sweet spot. I noticed over the last couple of days that my 9860 is not geting as hot. But I really need to watch Mobile Meter for 15 min period when basically in idle and then pushing it.
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If the optimized setting for the card is 300/699, why is it set for 250/600? Any worries about damaging the card by consistently running it at a higher clockspeed than default settings? I don't have the ability to monitor temperature (where I'm at I don't have the ability to download any software). Thanks for all your posts.
Flats this is Nvidia's own software that actually tests the card then comes back and tells you the best setting to run it..and thats what it gave me.. Not bad at all. Alot of cards come underclocked though, that isn't abnormal...Someone else here ran the same test and got a clock of 299/699 I believe..so it looks like t his is the optimo setting for this card..
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