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Old 04-13-2005, 09:06 AM   #1
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Another quick question, what will happed it i did not test the setting enough and continue to use these settings and an error occurs? Will this result in a BSOD?
Normally you will BSOD immediately, if you have the settings too aggressive. If the settings are low and you're not having immediate problems, you could BSOD at some point but this doesn't always happen - sometimes if any errors occur, it will result in corrupt data instead. That means the data will be useless.
I would definitely suggest testing at least 4 hours for any errors - overnight if possible.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:54 AM   #2
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I've been working on lowering my dell m70 and so far it doesn't look like it'll be lowered too much, or at least as much as some of the other people with 2.0ghz chips have gotten.

Although I gotta say my m70 is freakin' quiet. It is my first laptop so maybe it isn't but compared to my mom's older Pentium 4m laptop it is better cooled and much quieter out of the box.

While I am still testing I have a question for the enlightened. From watching i8fangui, at a reduced voltage my computer eventually drops to 45 C, at which point the fans go off and the cpu temp creeps back to ~62 C at which point the fans come on at low and it goes back to 45 C to repeat.

Would it be better to make it so that the fans stayed on after it hit 45C, or came on earlier? Is this turning on and off of the fans worse than having them always running?

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Old 04-15-2005, 10:34 PM   #3
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You have 512 of ram and you're still having low virtual memory?? What programs are you running?
Sorry, my problem was resolved. I was using BFK an Open Source Keylogger that I completely forgot about. It doesn't record very well, but I think that has something to do with my keyboard (diNovo). So I uninstalled that and now I don't have virtual memory problems.
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Old 04-16-2005, 01:03 PM   #4
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I'am having a bit of trouble getting this thing to work.

On the newest version of RMclock when I cange my maximal VID under management options, my vcore will not decrease at all from 1.340 to w/e setting I place it at.

I'am using an ASUS M6Ne, without Run HLT checked off(i've tried it when it was enabled all it did was report my CPU load at 50 percent when it should be 100).

Any ideas on how to get this thing to work?
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:32 AM   #5
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When I do torture test, I just leave my fans always on and my CPU stays at 39.

BlownFuse: I have torture tested my Maximal (0.972V) for 2 hours and no errors using the 1st option in torture test. Will it not impose damage to the CPU if I ran a torture test for 4 hours? I mean, Im still quite septik. Overnight? Are you serious?
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:39 AM   #6
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so far I've only gotten bsod as my indicators of trying too little voltage. However, they come along after awhile of testing. Not sure how long as I was sleeping during both times it happened recently.

In any case, I think you should test it for awhile, but that's just my gut. As for 'torture test', I just start prime95, i don't select torture test or anything like that. Well, actually when I first installed it I said it was for testing purposes. Is there something else I should be doing...my cpu load is at 100% at 2ghz.

Also, should I enable my fans to continue to constantly blow? Figures I'd wanna have it as similar to how I'm going to be having it in normal work.

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Old 04-13-2005, 01:47 PM   #7
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BlownFuse: I have torture tested my Maximal (0.972V) for 2 hours and no errors using the 1st option in torture test. Will it not impose damage to the CPU if I ran a torture test for 4 hours? I mean, Im still quite septik. Overnight? Are you serious?
No, you will not damage your CPU. Running your CPU at 100% or undervolting doesn't damage, increasing voltage can (when overclocking, for example).
For example: I have some computers running a distributed computing program called Folding@Home (folds proteins for science). This program runs 100% cpu usage (it is just as stressful as Prime95), and I have been running them 24 hours a day, 7 days a week - for over 2 years now.
For the most part, the only way hardware damage occurs from running software, is if you are running the hardware out of spec. So, as long as you test your settings (as thoroughly as you can), and everything is running good - you should be all set.

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so far I've only gotten bsod as my indicators of trying too little voltage. However, they come along after awhile of testing. Not sure how long as I was sleeping during both times it happened recently.

In any case, I think you should test it for awhile, but that's just my gut. As for 'torture test', I just start prime95, i don't select torture test or anything like that. Well, actually when I first installed it I said it was for testing purposes. Is there something else I should be doing...my cpu load is at 100% at 2ghz.

Also, should I enable my fans to continue to constantly blow? Figures I'd wanna have it as similar to how I'm going to be having it in normal work.

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BSOD (no matter how long it takes) = bump voltage up a little, and try again.
Testing over a period of time @ 100% usage (regardless of how you test, as long as it is stressing the cpu) is the way to find out the limits of the cpu. Over time, you will see if you have enough voltage for all those calculations while the cpu is shedding gobs of heat - and heat is hardware's main downfall.
I did not have my fans constantly on while stress testing, I let Dell's default settings dictate my fans' functionality. My logic behind it, is that I wanted the processor to get hotter than I normally would run it (pushing the limits). The higher the temperature, the more potential for failure - so if it makes it through the testing, than I know I have definitely hit the sweet spot for my settings.
Just my $.02, hope it helps.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:47 PM   #8
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yeah, that's pretty much my thought as well. I don't wanna try anything with the fans blarring as I wouldn't want to use it at that point.

Another question about BSOD, I have Spybot installed and it has a Spybot SD-Resident that came up when I rebooted as the registry changed. The kernel file, the one that faulted in the BSOD had changed and wanted me to know if I wanted to allow or disallow it. I went ahead and allowed it but it made me wonder, do my bsods accumulate in my registry like this? As I was testing a got a couple more and while it isn't a lot obviously it was still something I wanted to understand better. Would a registry cleaning utility see them?

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edit: Well I had it running at 1.132 v on prime for ~10 hours with no problems. Then tonight I was playing around on it and during the installation of the bluetooth stack I got a BSOD. Not sure what to make of that really. I am putting the volts up to 1.148 volts for now.

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Old 04-13-2005, 11:54 PM   #9
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I am trying to do this according to the instructions and when I changed the maximal voltage in the management tab it changes back to the original voltage as soon as I hit apply. Is it changing the voltage and just not displaying it? Or am I not doing something right? I appreciate any info you guys can give me.
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i was stress testing my maximum VID and my comp just shut down and I had to reboot manually, anyone else encounter this problem?
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Quick question, I am in the process of performing this.

Once I've established what my minimal voltages for 6* and 15*, can I just use NHC to just set the voltages I want under the CPU Voltage tab?
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:52 AM   #12
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Quick question, I am in the process of performing this.

Once I've established what my minimal voltages for 6* and 15*, can I just use NHC to just set the voltages I want under the CPU Voltage tab?
Yup. Nice undervolt! The idle volts really doesnt change temp much because it's such a low load and speed, as you said. However, it will prolong your battery life a bit

futureaudio- in that case, that makes sense. You must remember that you're taking a 1.7GHz processor and overclocking it to 2.26GHz. A simple notion of overclocking is that at one point, you have to add volts to stabilize your CPU at higher speeds. The fact that you can undervolt at all is absolutely fantastic, be very happy that you got a high quality chip
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I have a problem at times with RMclock crashing when I try to show or hide the menus. This has happened whether or not I'm running the stock or modified voltages. Has anyone else experienced this and if so is there a workaround?

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I have a problem at times with RMclock crashing when I try to show or hide the menus. This has happened whether or not I'm running the stock or modified voltages. Has anyone else experienced this and if so is there a workaround?

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