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Old 03-25-2005, 10:05 PM   #1
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Plagiarism is stealing someone else's work and presenting it as my own. I originally heard about undervolting on another forum. I was intrigued about the possibilities and read up (on several websites and forums) about how to accomplish it. I then attempted it on my laptop and it worked. I was happy with my results so I thought I would share my method with everyone else. What I did is called adaptive learning and sharing.
I never accused you, didnt I ask you first? Sheesh.
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:06 PM   #2
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Maybe because I am a forum moderator?
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:09 PM   #3
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I see I see, still this thread helps others, I think whoever complained didn't find out by himself either.
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:12 PM   #4
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Well he saw it fit to complain, as he feels he did not get any credit for the hard work that he did.

Needledik, what forums/sites did you take this info from?
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Old 03-26-2005, 03:32 AM   #5
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Didn't read the other posts linky but unless you did a word for word or an idea for idea, then it is not plagarism...i mean underclocking has been around for a long time. I mean is it to say that if someone posted an overclocking guide it would be plagarism? Same thing applies here IMHO. But if it were the case that the two posts looked suspiciously similar, then it would be IMHO that credit should be given where credit is due.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:13 PM   #6
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This is such a great thread! Here are my results using an i9300 1.6GHz Pentium M Sonoma:

Initial Voltages:
1.356v (Max) @ 1600MHz with a CPU temp of 130F (100% load); Idle CPU temp is 84F
0.988 (Min) @ 800MHz with a CPU temp 93F (100% load); Idle CPU temp is 82F

Custom Voltages:
- 0.908v (Max) @ 1600MHz with a CPU temp 95F (100% load); Idle CPU temp is 82F
- 0.700v (Min) @ 800MHz with a CPU temp 86F (100% load); Idle CPU temp is 82F

So there is a 33% reduction in voltage at 1600MHz and it runs 35 degrees cooler. AMAZING! At 800MHz there is a 29% reduction in voltage and it runs about 7 degrees cooler. My guess is if the ambient temp was cooler then there would be a more noticable difference at 800MHz.

I used Prime95 and PCMark04 to "stress test" the settings. I am currently stressing it again with Prime95. One warning when using Prime95, make sure when you run the stress test, you test it with the 1024K FFT length. I ran the CPU at a lower voltage with 768K FFT length, but then it failed at the higher lengths.

The CPU fan was set at "slow" or the "low" setting. Ambient temp is around 76F. The laptop has been sitting on my lap the whole time as well. The air coming out the back (at 100% load) feels cold on my hand.

My CPU (even at 100% load) is the coolest running hardware in my laptop.

I did screw around with the GPU (Geforce 6800 Go 256MB) and got the settings up to 361MHz Clock / 731MHz Memory. A 3DMark05 score of 3940. This video card, with the fan on, runs around 49C (celcius) and in the middle - upper 50's (celcius) after running 3DMarks05 (GPU tests only).
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:45 PM   #7
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That's awesome Asdasl! Great results. I'm hoping that I can get similar outcomes with my m70 when it arrives. Although I have a 2.0ghz in it so I'm sure it won't be quite the same.

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Old 03-26-2005, 06:05 PM   #8
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Actually plagerism isn't just word for word, its even using someone elses idea without giving credit. It doesn't apply to "common knowledge" things obviously. The amount of posts here that would count as plagerism would be huge going by the true definition. We would all have to cite our sources, give credit to ideas we got from other members or websites, and really it would be a pain in the ass. The OP never said it was his idea and all what you had to do Enderet was post the links. No mellowdrama was necessary.
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Actually plagerism isn't just word for word, its even using someone elses idea without giving credit. It doesn't apply to "common knowledge" things obviously. The amount of posts here that would count as plagerism would be huge going by the true definition. We would all have to cite our sources, give credit to ideas we got from other members or websites, and really it would be a pain in the ass. The OP never said it was his idea and all what you had to do Enderet was post the links. No mellowdrama was necessary.
I think you made up your own definition.

plagiarism

n 1: a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work 2: the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own [syn: plagiarization, plagiarisation, piracy]

He didn't say that he came up with that idea. So it's not plagiarism.
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Old 03-26-2005, 06:43 PM   #10
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nothing more to say

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They used different programs, CrystalCupid and RMClock, it's like saying AMD is comitting plagiarism since they are making processors
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Thank you for defending me, Kenshino and others. It's really sad this thread devolved into accusations of plagiarism. Here is the original forum post which inspired me to undervolt my CPU:

http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthrea...447#post189447

Here are the other sources of information I used to learn about undervolting:

http://forum.rightmark.org/?id=6
http://www.linuxjunior.org/yabbse/in...%3Bboardseen=1
http://www.ocforums.com/archive/index.php/t-352158.html

There most likely were some other sites in there but I don't remember the addresses. Most of my learning was from actually trying to undervolt my CPU, through trial and error. This fiasco has put me off from posting some other tutorials I had in mind, such as adjusting your hard drive's acoustical properties or maximizing your battery runtime.
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:50 AM   #14
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Man this is kinda annoying, can we get a 'plagiarism' thread somewhere else if you guys wanna keep talking about this. I keep thinking there is more news from people actually trying it out and what their results were and instead it is just post after post of something not related to the thread.

Tellerve, who is looking forward and hoping the knowledge, however gleamed, will make his m70 much cooler running.
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Old 03-27-2005, 02:43 PM   #15
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On my i9300, by keeping both fans on high, I can get the system down to 78F while idle (71F ambient). Not bad if I do say so myself.
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