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Asus Z71V Review by Djembe
last updated March 2, 2009 latest update in bold Read and enjoy! ![]() Looks I think one of the biggest change in notebooks since I got mine is a new attention to style. Many of the latest notebooks have a glossy finish and so I guess my Z71V is beginning to show its age in that it doesn't always look as good in comparison to the other computers in the room. On the other hand, it still looks okay, and although there is some wear on the paint of the left palmrest, it's fairly minimal compared with several other (and newer) notebooks that I've seen, so that makes me happy. You may notice a little scratching on the bottom from when I used the wrong sized screwdriver and ended up stripping the screw and needing to get it out with vice grips. Rick from ISTNC was kind enough to send me some extra screws after I told him about it, but there's still some scratches remaining from the vice grips. There's also a small white section just below one of the USB ports that resulted from me accidentally dropping the computer about 3 feet. Everything still works fine, though. (see section on "durability" for more)![]() Screen The screen looks good. The high resolution widescreen display makes me feel like I’ve got a ton of space to work with. I was initially worried that the text would seem too small, but it’s perfectly readable. I’m taking advantage of the screen space to view multiple programs side-by-side, and it rocks! After looking carefully, I did find one stuck pixel (always blue), but it’s in the lower left corner of the notebook, and I don’t notice it very much. Honestly, unless I'm specifically looking for it, I don't ever see it now. When I initially got the computer, several people with the same model had complained of a “sparkle effect” or what looks like a slight shimmer or color unevenness on bright lighter colors. I do notice this effect, but I guess it's more of a personal preference on whether this is an annoyance or not. For me, it's not a big deal. Some people have also made complaints that the Z71V screen is not bright enough. My personal experience is that it's brighter than most matte screens I've seen. I think glossy screens do look better on the whole, but I'm still quite satisfied. Movies sometimes do appear somewhat dark on standard settings, but some adjustments of the Nvidia control panel can eliminate this issue. Viewing angles on my screen are wide enough that people sitting next to me can easily see my screen (which is sometimes a bit embarrassing if I'm playing games in class ) ![]() Build and Durability The machine seems to be built very well. There’s very little flex anywhere. The case feels very solid, and the plastic case seems very un-plasticy. I tested the screen shielding by poking the back and looking for discororations: there were none. MUCH better than my old Sony that would get a discoloration if you breathed on it wrong! The screen stays at whatever angle I put it at, and although after close to 3 years it does have a very slight wobble if shaken back and forth, it still feels quite solid. There was one somewhat subpar component in the notebook. The heatsink for the graphics card is a fairly simple aluminum tube attached to a fan. The heat transfer is done via a blue thermal pad. This is not ideal and some Z71V owners have had their graphics cards overheat due to the less than ideal cooling solution. However, forum member White Heat managed to design a much better heatsink and I bought one. The new heatsink, with Arctic Silver 5 thermal grease replacing the heatpads, dramatically lowered the temperature of my graphics card. At idle, temps lowered from the high 60s to mid 50s, and at load, temps dropped from the 90s to the mid 70s. If you ever read this, thanks White Heat!Regarding durablility, I'll admit that I'm not terribly careful with my electronics, and my computer has been bumped, dropped, hit, spilled on, and in its case it's been thrown, dropped in the snow, and left for hours in sub-zero temperatures. After one of the aforementioned drops, the plastic hook that locks the notebook closed snapped off. However, the good folks at ISTNC fixed it for me and got it back to me about a week after I sent it to them. My reseller rocks! ]I've also noticed that the glue for the rubber foot closest to the CPU is coming loose. I have to periodically stick it back on. It's a small thing, but it's helpful to know. I'm guessing that its proximity to a heat-producing component made the glue less sticky. The rubber foot ended up falling off completely, and I replaced it with one from my spare battery. Last July, after over three years of ownership, my motherboard spontaneously died. One day, the computer just wouldn't boot anymore - the power light would come on and the CD drive would spin up, but nothing else would happen - no splash screen, etc. Due to the fact that my 3 year warranty had expired a few months previously, I unfortunately had to pay for replacing my motherboard out of pocket. Again, Rick from ISTNC was very helpful, as he only charged me his price for parts and did the labor himself for free. Still, since it turned out that my motherboard was frying my video card, both had to be replaced and so it cost $357 to replace them. As a result of this, I had to drop my opinion of my notebook's build quality down from a 10/10 to 8/10. However, it's been running along nicely again ever since the motherboard and video card got replaced, so I'm hopeful that that is the only serious build quality issue I will have with the notebook. ![]() Weight & Mobility The notebook is easy to carry around the house by itself, and for travel or commuting, it came with a handy notebook case. The case can fit several other books, notebooks, etc. and has both a handle and a shoulder strap. When it's fully loaded up, the case can get somewhat heavy, but with just the notebook, it's not too bad. It's light enough to easily carry under your arm, but heavy enough so you don't forget it's there. I've taken my Z71v with me to several classes, used it on planes, in my car, in hotels, and various other places. It's easy to pack up and easy to put away, although it's just barely small enough for airplane tray tables. If you're going to be using your notebook on the plane a lot and aren't going first class, I'd probably recommend a 14" model. ![]() Sound The sound is quite good for a notebook, and the built in speakers can pump out enough volume to make DVD audio clear and distinct, even from across the room. However, they are still laptop speakers and have their limits. Deep bass notes will often come out muddy and distorted, especially at maximum volume settings. And that's the time to plug in headphones or auxiliary speakers into the Audio out port, which outputs a powerful and clear signal. Sound is one of the Z71v's best features. Both analog output through headphones and digital optical output via a toslink cable with an optical minijack provide a good signal. The port also can auto-detect which type of cord (digital or analog) is inserted and adjust output accordingly. ![]() Keyboard The keyboard feels great. Keys are nearly silent, and have adequate travel or “bounce”. Some have commented on the location of the Fn key as annoying, but I find it convenient for usage when I'm using the hotkeys. Also, the keyboard letters are still very clear and distinct after a year and a half's use. Keyboard wear is minimal. ![]() Touchpad The touchpad works well in general. It’s very sensitive, and sometimes I brush past it and inadvertently move the mouse or click on something. That’s not necessarily a negative for the computer, but just something that took some getting used to. The buttons work well, but are distinctly louder than the keyboard. The scrollbar is useful. The farther you move your finger on it, the faster it scrolls. It’s a pretty cool feature, especially on big documents and web pages. It also has a sidescroll feature you can access by sliding your finger along the bottom. ![]() Performance and Benchmarks Benchmarks on AC Power using NBF MobileForce Nvidia 169.09 driver, 250/500 clock (stock) 3DMark06: 871 3DMark05: 1819 3DMark03: 4536 Battery Life The battery initially lasted 2.25 hours playing a DVD. Doing basic applications (word processing, surfing the internet, etc.), it lasted between 3.5 and 4 hours, enough to easily get through my 3.5 hour long classes. If you're going to be on a long flight or need more than 4 hours of battery life, I'd suggest getting the modular battery that swaps for the optical drive. Second Battery And following my own advice, since my classes have recently been changed from 3.5 hours long to 4 hours long, I decided to purchase the modular battery. I received it while my main battery was being RMA'd (see "problem resolution 2" below), and so I found out that the modular battery lasts close to three hours by itself, which makes sense considering that it has about 3/4 of the capacity of the main battery. After recieving my new replacement main battery, I checked the battery life. It turns out that due to a difference in voltages, neither Windows nor NHC can correctly estimate the time remaining when both batteries are in the computer, so I did some real-life tests, and my average total battery life with both batteries while word processing & surfing the internet was around 6 hours. Changing from one battery to the other happens without a hiccup. There's a very smooth transfer. So I am quite satisfied with the modular battery. On a side note, I purchased the modular battery from the same place I bought my computer: Integrated System Technologies. They were prompt in shipping, with the modular battery even arriving 2 days earlier than expected! Again, my hat is off to these folks! ![]() Battery Wear Addressing battery wear on the Z71v is an interesting situation, as there is a marked difference between batteries manufactured in 2005 and ones made in 2006. With this in mind, and since I have one of each, I'll provide battery wear information separately for each one. After replacing the first 3 main batteries I received due to the charging problem (see Problem Resolution), the 4th one I received was finally free of it, although still a part of the old design. After 11 months of use, the battery wear was 12%, equaling approximately 1 percent wear per month. About that time, I wondered if I could reduce that wear level by running the battery calibration utility found in BIOS. However, after repeated attempts, it just made the wear level worse! After running it a few times, that battery ended up at 42% wear. And unfortunately, when I tried to get it replaced, it turns out that while Asus warrantees their notebook batteries for a year, they warrant their replacement notebook batteries for only 3 months, so I had to buy a new one to get the full battery life back. I ended up keeping the old battery as well, and decided to try getting the cells replaced by the folks at www.batteryrefill.com The process took about 10 days and cost $90 ($10 less than a new battery). However, after I got it back, it worked well again! They also used slightly higher capacity cells, giving a small boost in maximum capacity (66000 mWh vs 65000 mWh initially). If you've got a battery that's wearing out, they're worth a shot. However, it seems that changing the cells with new ones only extended my battery's operation lifetime a little. It has completely died by now and is completely unusable. This makes me reconsider my recommendation of Battery Refill, but it could also be a result of the battery that I sent in having been one of the older defective 2005 models. I guess like anything, try it at your own risk. The modular bay battery that I have is now at 38% wear after 37 months, which is pretty good. It's just a bit over the 1% wear per month that I originally expected, but over such a long period of time it's been very consistent. My newer battery is now at around 80% wear after 28 months of use, which unfortunately means I currently have only half an hour of battery life with my primary battery and around 2 hours total with both it and the modular bay battery. I'm somewhat surprised at how much faster the main batteries I've had seem to wear out in comparison to the modular battery. I still frequently use my notebook unplugged, so I'm glad that I can still get a reasonable amount of battery life (even though I need both batteries in) when I need it, even though of course I wish it could be more. Heat and Noise The laptop stays wonderfully cool most of the time. According to Mobile Meter, the CPU has a temperature range of 37-66 degrees Celsius, averaging 40 degrees Celsius on battery and 58 degrees on AC power, before undervolting. And the only places it gets noticeably warm are on the strip of plastic between the touchpad & the keyboard, around the "Built on Asus" tab just below the screen, and on the bottom in the back. It’s not uncomfortably hot anywhere even after over 6 hours of use. Edit: In Everest 2.0, under the "sensor" tab, it wil list the temperatures for the motherboard, CPU, Aux (which newer versions of Everest have identified as my graphics card), and hard drive. My motherboard has never gone above 53, even when gaming, benchmarking, video encoding, disc burning, etc. The hard drive did get up to 55 once, after defragmenting the drive a few times in a row, but it's normally about 5-10 degrees lower than the motherboard at any given time. ]This shows that the machine has an efficient cooling system that keeps the internal components at a stable & safe operating temperature. Something I may have failed to mention earlier is that the fans are typically not loud at all, only ramping up to noticeable levels when the computer is running a processor-intensive application or game. The Z71V has 2 fans. The GPU/chipset fan is on constantly, but is typically near silent so it's only noticeable when in a very quiet room. The second fan is for the processor, and it is louder, but it only turns on when the CPU gets over 55 degrees Celsius which typically does not happen unless I'm running the aforementioned intensive programs. My hard drive is also very quiet in operation, making the computer near ideal for use in classes and libraries. The only distinctly loud part is the DVD drive, which is a bit noisy when it's running. Something of note is that the GPU/chipset fan is typically a bit louder in Ubuntu than in Windows. I think that happens because there aren't any power-saving features for the linux graphics driver. However, perhaps due to that, graphics performance tends to be slightly better in Ubuntu than in Windows. Undervolting I used Notebook Hardware Control in Windows and Linux Processor Hardware Control in Ubuntu to lower the CPU voltages for each multiplier and I'm running the computer on "dynamic switching" now. The biggest difference in this is heat: running on AC power, the CPU now has an ABSOLUTE MAX temp of 63, and a functional max temp of 58. When I'm not gaming or running very CPU-intensive programs, the temp stays in the mid 40s, and when gaming, it goes into the mid to high 50s. I was actually able to undervolt the CPU further than I had previously thought. The voltages I'm using now are as follows: 6x: 0.700v 8x: 0.796v 9x: 0.828v 10x: 0.876v 11x: 0.924v 12x: 0.972v 13x: 1.004v 14x: 1.052v Overclocking While I overclocked my graphics card a couple of times early on just for fun (and restored it to normal when there weren't any dramatic improvements in gameplay), within the last year I also "upgraded" my CPU from a 1.86 Ghz Pentium M 750 to an overclocked 1.7 Ghz Pentium M 735 that runs at a stable 2.26 Ghz by changing the multiplier from its initial 100 Mhz to 133 Mhz. While this procedure requires a CPU pin modification in most cases, the Z71V has a dipswitch next to the CPU slot that can force the CPU to operate at either 100 Mhz multipliers or 133 Mhz multipliers, so the overclock was attained effortlessly. My "new" overclocked CPU cannot be undervolted as much as my former CPU at the higher frequencies, but it can be undervolted to the same level with the lower frequencies, so it uses the same amount of power as my former CPU at idle. The increase also gave a noticeable performance boost. ![]() ALS The ambient light sensor works very well, and doesn’t darken the screen to a point where you can’t see it, just to a point where it doesn’t appear overly bright. You can adjust how much ALS will darken the screen in each setting. It's a whole lot easier than manually adjusting the brightness in various settings, and it saves battery life, too! Audio DJ CD player In my opinion, this feature would have been much more effective if it played DVDs. CD playback is only so-so. Music seems to play well, but vocal can easily be drowned out by instruments, and it’s sometimes hard to hear what the singers are singing. Edit: you can control the volume via Fn+F11 or Fn+F12. I haven't had the "singer getting drowned out" problem again, so maybe I just played a bad test CD. It's actually not too bad, if you don't have a CD player handy and don't mind a lack in very low bass tones. DVD+/-RW drive The drive works well for me. It is capable of reading and burning CDs, DVDs, and dual-layer DVDs. It is compatible with most media brands and types that I've used. The only media that has not worked are blank Memorex dual layer DVDs. Burning a CD takes 6-10 minutes. A DVD burns in roughly 15 minutes, and a dual-layer DVD completes in roughly 25 minutes. Reseller Experience I bought mine from Integrated System Technologies. I recently visited their website and it seems that they're in process of changing their company name to Carolina Computer Technologies. I would HIGHLY recommend them to anyone who is planning to buy a new computer. Rick, the owner, answered a string of questions that I had about the notebook when I first placed my order, and Gwen, the co-owner, sent me e-mails detailing the Z71v's process through pre-order, build, and shipping. They even set my name up in Windows! You can't do any better than that! ![]() Problem Resolution After just about 3 months of use, my battery would no longer charge to full. I told Rick at IST about my problem, and he replaced the battery with a working one. Plus, I didn't have to pay a cent for shipping either way. (IST provides free ground shipping both ways for any warrantee issues) Problem Resolution, part 2 After about a month on my replacement battery, that one stopped charging to full also! I called Rick again, and he said that he was not allowed to ship Z71v battery replacements because Asus was looking into the issue and wanted to process everthing themselves, and also because Asus suspected that IST's spare batteries could be from the battery series affected. So instead, I had to go through Asus directly. This was my timeline with Asus: Friday, September 2: I called Asus and they gave me a service number and told me they'd e-mail me return information. Thursday, September 8th: I still had not recieved return instructions, so I called Asus again. The same day, I recieved an e-mail from Mila Chao saying that the initial report got lost in the system. She apologized and wrote out the return instructions.Friday, September 9th: I shipped the defective battery to Asus via USPS Priority Mail. Friday, September 16th: Asus sent me an e-mail saying that my new battery had ben shipped. Monday, September 19th: FedEx dropped the battery off at my door, and it's now charging in my computer. I'm not as happy with Asus' own tech replacement service as I was with IST's service, because a had to wait a week for an RMA number and return instructions, and because I had to pay for shipping to Asus ($7.59 for Priority Mail), but they came through in the end, so I'm happy again. edit: After a couple months and several charge/discharge cycles with the new battery, I'm happy to say that the battery charging issue seems to be gone for good! Go ![]() Problem Resolution, Part 3 Aaaaand, take three: after 3 months, the battery Asus gave me stopped charging to full also (stuck at 50%). I talked to Rick about it, he dealt with the problem this time instead of having me talk to Asus, and a week later, I've got the new battery and it works fine. This time Rick used a cross-ship method where he sent me the battery first & then I send him the old one. All in all, a very quick & pleasant exchange process (although I wish I didn't have to keep exchanging batteries in the first place!!!) Basically, ![]() Overall My Z71V has lasted me 4 years so far, and for the vast majority of that time, it has been a solid performer and a capable notebook. I feel like I have gotten my money's worth and have a reliable product that I can depend on. Technology changes all the time, and the idea of continually updating a review over time is not just so you can consider whether or not to buy a Z71V, which would be considered very out of date now, but so you have an idea of the long-term reliability of an Asus notebook. Although there were difficulties, I am overall very satisfied with my notebook and will likely buy another Asus when it comes time for me to upgrade. Thank you for your time and I hope my review has been helpful. -Djembe Last edited by Djembe; 03-02-2009 at 03:37 PM. |
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Nice review.
The scrollpad feature seems to work with my M6Ne in Mozilla Firefox... |
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where did you purchase your lappy from?
just trying to document where non perfect notebooks were purchased at, to see if it's a batch or randomness (probably randomness tho) good review btw should insert video drivers number in your benchmarks |
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I got it from Integrated System Technologies. http://www.istnc.com/store I'll check the video driver in a bit. I'm running battery configuration from the BIOS right now.
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Touchpad Scrolling in Firefox
I had the same problem: No scrolling on the touchpad. Apparently, this is an issue with the latest Synaptics driver. You can read about it on the Mozillazine forums http://forums.mozillazine.org/search.php?mode=results, especially this thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...ight=synaptics. I downloaded an earlier version of the driver from http://www.qditech.com.au/downloads.php , removed the current driver using Add/Remove Programs, and then ran the setup.exe for the later driver. I can now scroll in Firefox, though I haven't tested the old driver in other applications.
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whats the side by side program feature? and does your dvd drive click when it is burning?
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Have you tried any games other than the 3D marks? i.e. HL2 or Doom3?
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I have played CS source, and it plays well stock, didnt hit below 40 fps, but ranges from 40s-80s
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Same I played with 1600x1200 all high settings AA off and get 40-70fps maybe more.
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olli, I played it at the stock settings. I just installed it. Set it to widescreen, and there is only one resolution that you can have on this laptop for widescreen so that will be autoselected. The settings I used in game were just the ones the game auto set them at, high, simple reflections and no AA. It sounds like you got the same results as me.
I just alt-tabbed out of CS, and it flashes between the game and the desktop really fast, anybody know why it does that or how to make it so it just shows the desktop? Is it the two different resolutions being used?
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does anybody know how to test/use the microphone, I want to use it in CS but I cannot see any options in windows?
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