I've seen those and that's for the old P-M with 400MHz bus. The new ones with 533MHz are a tad faster. We really should compare 8104WLMi with 4005WLMi - after downclocking the x700 graphics card to the same level. Then you would see that the P-M is actually faster.

If you only trust anandtech then see this benchmark test : http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2382&p=7

Yep, that would prove something at least for the tested games...

I wonder why nobody have done it yet...

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It's not like "I only trust site bla". But the link you've given shows that P-M at 2.13Ghz is slightly faster that Athlon 64 at 2Ghz... (in Doom 3 and Wolfenstein)

with some overclocking, i had this result.

Here is a screenshot



Tell me what you think

From the screenshots doesnt look like you ran full round of tests on benchmark.

2344 --> was the result without overclocking, even with the full test it's arount +1 -1 .. not big difference, but i am overclocking the gpu, witch gain a lot more frames in the game testing, you can see it in the result ..

anyway, anyone is overclocking with atitool ??? what's the core and memory you have ? does it heat a lot more for you guys ?

thanks

My stock is 2581. Nothing overclocked, what are you clocking up your gpu with?Ati tool?

Want reputable benchmarks? Tough to beat techreport.com!!

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20...f/index.x?pg=1

Here P-M 2Ghz loses again to Athlong 64 2Ghz. But mabe it's again not the lates one.

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I still hope somebody downclocks x700 to 8104's speeds and benchmarks it...

well first of all that pentium M was running with DDR333... second of all... why are we comparing the Pentium-M to the Athlon 64 again? The Athlon 64 is a desktop processor. We need comparisons between the Turion and the Pentium-M.

The jump from DDR 333 to DDR2 533 is not likely to cause much of a change in performance. Also, Turion is basically an Athlon 64 (the architecture is the same) so performance of the Athlon 64 will be quite similar to a Turion with equal clock and cache.

Yes it was running with memory that has LOWER latency than DDR2 and enough throughput for any moder processor. So what?

Turion is slightly faster than socket 754 Athlon at the same speed.

Memory speeds/sizes/timigs/WHATEVER are OVERRATED. It very much depends on the task, and most application see no gain when switching to the faster memory. (see recent tests by anand on DDR-500)

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But I agree that direct comparison would be better. Comparing downclocked x700 Ferrarri 400x with 8104 would be interesting.

ummm... wombatten... don't go by gamepc's crap benchmarks... their testing methods are apparently flawed

Turion = AMD64 performance. Just see the gamepc review :http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_cont...&cookie_test=1

But ofcause the performance of the socked 939 AMD64 can be tweaked by faster (e.g., dual) ram.

And the Techreport benches are again of the P-Ms with 400MHz bus. But just check the UT2004 sofware rendering test - or the LAME MP3 encoding tests. That 2MB cache on the Dothan really comes in handy.

Grow up guys.... When ever you see a benchmark that shows your CPU is not the fastest in the world, then its must definately be flawed, or what?? Which benchmarks should I trust then? Anandtech also has a bench that shows P-M are faster pr. MHz than AMD64 (see my previous post). - that makes 3 benchmarks with more or less same conclusion. Sure there may be a fault in the GamePC one, but atleast it shows Turion=Athlon64. But what about the other two, then?

Thats why I've been calling out for equally-clocked X700 test of TM8104WLMi vs F4005WLMi.

I own a Ferrari4005WLMi myself, but that doesn't mean that I have to go around with "AMD" glasses on and fool myself into believing my CPU is the fastest thing in the world.

Are you talking to yourself, WLF46WLF? The top superpi benchmark looks like it may have made on a 2.2GHz turion.