Ferrari 4000...post your benchmarks!! ... I still don't get why don't you simply downclock your X700 to 8104 levels and benchmark it...

burninator · 07-15-2005, 06:27 AM

I still don't get why don't you simply downclock your X700 to 8104 levels and benchmark it...

burninator · 07-15-2005, 06:41 AM

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Some tests show the PM is faster in games, some tests show the Turion. What does that mean?

That means that general claims "PM is faster than Turion at the same speed" and "Turion is faster than PM at the same clockspeed" are false.

techn9ne · 07-15-2005, 08:47 AM

I'll do it later tonight when I get home... I don't get why anyone else isn't doing it... it's not hard to downclock a freakin videocard...

WLF46WLF · 07-15-2005, 01:47 PM

acer ferrari 4000 here in italy:
superpi
1M: 38s
4M: 3min:45s
that's great.. I can't see your scores!
48s in superpi 1M
and more tha 4 minutes in 4M!

WLF46WLF · 07-15-2005, 01:50 PM

sure to have turion model ML-37 2.0GHz?
or turion ML-34 1.8GHz?

wombatten · 07-15-2005, 04:26 PM

Are you talking to yourself, WLF46WLF?

The top superpi benchmark looks like it may have made on a 2.2GHz turion.

WLF46WLF · 07-15-2005, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wombatten

Are you talking to yourself, WLF46WLF?

The top superpi benchmark looks like it may have made on a 2.2GHz turion.

sorry for my english.. by the way.. we have turion64 ML-37! and and up there the scores.. any idea of these differences??

WLF46WLF · 07-15-2005, 04:40 PM

I was talking to you, possessor of ferrari 4000, in general

kevineugenius · 07-15-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wombatten

The 6600 GT outperforms the X700 PRO because it runs at higher frequencies. However, if you change the GDDR3 to DDR, then the better pr. MHz performance of the X700 starts to have an impact. That's why the RM X700 scores higher in synthetic benchmarks (3dmarks), while the 6600GO is actually faster in many games.

Ok, I think this might be interesting. Explain that a tad more please?

burninator · 07-16-2005, 01:01 AM

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The 6600 GT outperforms the X700 PRO because it runs at higher frequencies.

Wrong. You can't compare different architectures by their frequencies.

wombatten · 07-16-2005, 04:18 AM

Burminator: please read the next line that I write, instead of quoting a line out of a context. A lot of sites have made the comparison that I did:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1738299,00.asp

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2297&p=2

And the rest of you please read the benchmarks.

http://www.hardware.no/artikkel/16993/4 (in norwegian compare 6512WD and TM8100 that are 1.6GHz P-M's with 6600GO and RM X700, respectively )

http://world.altavista.com/babelfish...gi-video.shtml

The last one is a test of a number of cards. If you had read this test, kevineugenius, the performance of the F4000 would have been no surprise to you (it has the X700 without GDDR3!). Generally the 6600 and X700 are neck-a-neck, but the 6600gt scores better than x700 pro in most test, while the x700 scores better than the 6600 in many tests.

Gotta get back to writing on my thesis. Happy reading guys.

burninator · 07-16-2005, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wombatten

Burminator: please read the next line that I write, instead of quoting a line out of a context. A lot of sites have made the comparison that I did:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1738299,00.asp

They in fact compared frequencies of the SAME architectures:

Quote:

Immediately, we see that the GeForce 6600GT has a large advantage in clock speed. At the very high-end, ATI's cards have a large clock speed advantage over nVidia's, and the cards generally perform quite close to one another. Knowing this, and knowing that the X700 Pro is at a serious clock speed disadvantage here, we expect to see ATI come up short in most of the benchmarks.

This, btw, somewhat contradicts your statement:

Quote:

However, if you change the GDDR3 to DDR, then the better pr. MHz performance of the X700 starts to have an impact.

as, according to extremetech, ATI has worst per mhz perfomance, at least for high end cards.

WLF46WLF · 07-16-2005, 05:08 AM

sorry, but

anyone has idea of the superpi scores? do you want the screen, because I think you don't consider me as serious

wombatten · 07-16-2005, 06:50 AM

I think you're right, burminator - but I begin to fail to see the differences in our arguments - are we really disagreeing? You win - I get peace.

WLF46WLF - we trust you - we simply don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you sure that we're running the same version of superpi?

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard"

WLF46WLF · 07-16-2005, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wombatten

I think you're right, burminator - but I begin to fail to see the differences in our arguments - are we really disagreeing? You win - I get peace.

WLF46WLF - we trust you - we simply don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you sure that we're running the same version of superpi?

the version doesn't matter I think. superpi-->38s
superpi 1.4 mod -->37,800 s
10s difference and we have the same ML-37! I'd like to understand why there is this difference

07-15-2005, 01:47 PM	#34
WLF46WLF Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125 Credits: -318	acer ferrari 4000 here in italy: superpi 1M: 38s 4M: 3min:45s that's great.. I can't see your scores! 48s in superpi 1M and more tha 4 minutes in 4M! __________________ acer ferrari 3200: AMD Athlon64 2800+@3000+® & ATI MR9700 128mb; 1GB kingston PC3200; Hitachi travelstar 7k60 60Gb 7200rpm 3DMark05: *2076* gianfri.irule@gmail.com

07-15-2005, 01:50 PM	#35
WLF46WLF Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125 Credits: -318	sure to have turion model ML-37 2.0GHz? or turion ML-34 1.8GHz? __________________ acer ferrari 3200: AMD Athlon64 2800+@3000+® & ATI MR9700 128mb; 1GB kingston PC3200; Hitachi travelstar 7k60 60Gb 7200rpm 3DMark05: *2076* gianfri.irule@gmail.com

07-15-2005, 04:40 PM	#38
WLF46WLF Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125 Credits: -318	I was talking to you, possessor of ferrari 4000, in general __________________ acer ferrari 3200: AMD Athlon64 2800+@3000+® & ATI MR9700 128mb; 1GB kingston PC3200; Hitachi travelstar 7k60 60Gb 7200rpm 3DMark05: *2076* gianfri.irule@gmail.com Last edited by WLF46WLF; 07-16-2005 at 02:10 AM.

07-16-2005, 05:08 AM	#43
WLF46WLF Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 125 Credits: -318	sorry, but anyone has idea of the superpi scores? do you want the screen, because I think you don't consider me as serious __________________ acer ferrari 3200: AMD Athlon64 2800+@3000+® & ATI MR9700 128mb; 1GB kingston PC3200; Hitachi travelstar 7k60 60Gb 7200rpm 3DMark05: *2076* gianfri.irule@gmail.com

07-16-2005, 06:50 AM	#44
wombatten Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 223 Credits: -179	I think you're right, burminator - but I begin to fail to see the differences in our arguments - are we really disagreeing? You win - I get peace. WLF46WLF - we trust you - we simply don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you sure that we're running the same version of superpi? "Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard" Last edited by wombatten; 07-16-2005 at 07:15 AM.

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07-15-2005, 06:27 AM	#31
burninator Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 52 Credits: -335	I still don't get why don't you simply downclock your X700 to 8104 levels and benchmark it...

07-15-2005, 08:47 AM	#33
techn9ne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 132 Credits: -315	I'll do it later tonight when I get home... I don't get why anyone else isn't doing it... it's not hard to downclock a freakin videocard...

07-15-2005, 04:26 PM	#36
wombatten Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 223 Credits: -179	Are you talking to yourself, WLF46WLF? The top superpi benchmark looks like it may have made on a 2.2GHz turion.

07-16-2005, 04:18 AM	#41
wombatten Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 223 Credits: -179	Burminator: please read the next line that I write, instead of quoting a line out of a context. A lot of sites have made the comparison that I did: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1738299,00.asp http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2297&p=2 And the rest of you please read the benchmarks. http://www.hardware.no/artikkel/16993/4 (in norwegian compare 6512WD and TM8100 that are 1.6GHz P-M's with 6600GO and RM X700, respectively ) http://world.altavista.com/babelfish...gi-video.shtml The last one is a test of a number of cards. If you had read this test, kevineugenius, the performance of the F4000 would have been no surprise to you (it has the X700 without GDDR3!). Generally the 6600 and X700 are neck-a-neck, but the 6600gt scores better than x700 pro in most test, while the x700 scores better than the 6600 in many tests. Gotta get back to writing on my thesis. Happy reading guys.

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